Posted on 09/14/2009 5:01:13 PM PDT by seanmerc
RUSH: And you enjoyed it for all the reasons that you've mentioned. But we've gotta be really, really careful here, Dana, about this left versus right government thing. You mentioned third party, and we've been through this with Perot.
CALLER: I know that. I know that. And I think Perot helped Clinton get in, I don't doubt that. I do believe there has to be a huge movement before people can vote that way.
RUSH: But a third party is not going to do anything other but ensure the reelection of Obama and every other Democrat running for office because even if you come up with a charismatic third-party presidential candidate, still isn't going to have anybody of any significance running in that party for seats in Congress of the US Senate unless this movement happened to become the majority movement in the country, and that's not what's happening. I respectfully disagree with you here. I understand the anger at the Republican Party. Hell, I've got it, too. I've had it for a long, long time. But don't make the mistake of thinking this is not a left versus right thing. This is a conservative ascendancy that's going on out there. You didn't show up and protest like this when the Republicans were in power.
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Indeed ?
I would say that it is presumtuous to assert with such certainty that we can know “what actually endures”.
“So you are calling Conservative Republican Ronald Reagan a loser”
Reagan didn’t want the “big tent” to include the so-called “moderates”, but libertarians. That “big tent” excludes much of the Republican leadership as it stands. This is not the same GOP.
Reagan left one party when it went to the left of him. He might have left this version of the GOP too.
No, you are. We represent his most important principles.
I was referring to the Bush Republicans who squandered every opportunity created by the Reagan Revolution, and wasted a decade’s control of government that was handed to them by millions of hard-working Americans.
Only because voters are sheep and as soon as he won NH the press annointed him and the sheep voted accordingly in SC and FL....... you want to change things, change the voter psyche of feeling they HAVE to vote for the person perceived to be the winner so they can say they voted for the person who won the election... in addition, maybe we need a primary more like the democrats where we don’t know the winner when we leave NH, but they have to fight it out clear down to the last few states.
Reagan was for a strong Military and National Security, That leaves the anti war libertarians out.
The “party” on either side is never the problem, we the people are the problem because too many are lazy and uninformed and more interested in AI than politics.
“...you never have a positive suggestion, only constant third party this and third party that, even though history tells every thinking person a third party will give Obama a third term and elect more Al Frankens
Third parties did not give us Obama. Arizona’s Senator did. He (McCain) seems fine with that, by the way.
Well, the founders of America said that these things were self-evident truths. Worked very well for us, right up until our "leaders" walked away from what is as obvious as the nose on your face.
No. Actually Reagan wanted the moderates in the "big tent". He just wanted conservatives in control of the tent.
That was Reagan's Republican party.
“That leaves the anti war libertarians out.”
What you see as “anti-war”, small “l” libertarians see as being “anti-nationbuilding”.
There’s no “National Security” in a porous border. There’s no “strong Military” in procurement cuts so we can give charity around the world.
Rush and Levin are right. They were loud a clear today because Glenn Beck goes down the populist road blurring the differnces between the two parties. As Levin correctly pointed out, it’s not so much the corruption but the STATISM. The left is going full tilt towards total TYRANNY. A 3rd party will guarantee that result.
“That was Reagan’s Republican party.”
Moderates (ie, liberals) are in control of that tent.
The way I understand it it was.
The founders believed in letting each man pursue happiness, as they put it, each in his own way. They had no principles of life to force on each other; they denied the right of the state to impose on anyone, or at any rate to a degree beyond the bare minimum necessary or that which was customary.
Their revolt was against a state that sought to impose itself on the people.
Why? For being visibly angry about the infestation of RINOs and their apologists within the GOP?
Considering that I don't have a DU account, that I donated more than a trivial sum (for a college student!) to both Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) and Virgil Goode (R-Va.) in 2008, that I have a Bob McDonnell (R-Va.) sticker on my car, and that I voted for either conservatives or libertarians in the last election, I will take your allegation as a compliment.
Have you already forgotten “the full tilt” statism of George “bailout” Bush? Obama is merely building on his foundation.
Another Newbee with your fresh DNC talking points.
On one hand Rush claims he's not a republican, he's a conservative first. On the other he goes down this logical path where republicans must never lose because democrats are so much worse. Unfortunately many of his listeners (I talk to) take this literally. There is no point in elections if republicans cannot lose. They were getting worse each year since gaining power, how would that get fixed??
Thankfully Rush was not pleading with us to vote for McCain, unfortunately Levin and Hannity were. Hannity was sickening.
(Rush's listeners skyrocket in number ironically when democrats win.)
Pooh!
Not if you're pro-abortion. The crowning purpose of the Constitution, according to the Constitution, is to "secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves AND OUR POSTERITY." And the Fifth and the Fourteenth Amendments protect the lives of all innocent persons. Or they would if our legal and political class had any principles left that they weren't willing to sell out to power and political expediency.
The “self-evident truths” were observations about human nature, not public policies.
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