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1 posted on 09/13/2009 2:33:47 PM PDT by NYer
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Santorum just doesn’t have “It.” And he was only a Senator. AND he supported Arlen Specter over a pro-life Republican.

Sarah has “It.”

Palin/Bachmann 2012


52 posted on 09/13/2009 3:49:04 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward KennedyÂ’s America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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Listen to him sub for Bill Bennett on Morning in America... he sits in a few times a month... he is aligned perfectly with michael steele.

LLS

56 posted on 09/13/2009 4:07:08 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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You’ve got my prayers, Senator Santorum.


67 posted on 09/13/2009 4:27:41 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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He wants a prayer? OK: Please, God, let him know he should stay out of politics...


70 posted on 09/13/2009 4:44:58 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Ram "Health Care Reform" down our throats in '09, and we'll ram it up your @ss in '10.)
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His time has come and gone. Outsiders only, new faces.

Palin/Mulally 2012......

Mulally will be a very hot commodity when he turns around Ford. Google him, follow his career. Watch what he is doing to turn around Ford, cutting cost, thinking way out of the box, so needed to drain the swamp in DC. He would carry Michigan, and IMHO possibly Ohio and Indiana. If so the Bamster is toast.....


74 posted on 09/13/2009 5:00:32 PM PDT by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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Thanks for the post NYer.Been invited-never went.Love Santorum -he would be smart to stay on Fox.I see him as Vice-President.Hope he knows they just made a crappy movie with hints about him.Means they take him serious.I say protest outside the churches of Biden,Polosi and Casey and let it ride baby.
75 posted on 09/13/2009 5:03:57 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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Just my opinion but...Thaddeus McCotter...anyone else is just a "dream" candidate.

If the job market does not turn around, nothing else will matter(health care, etc.)...but McCotter is the only one I see with the wit and wisdom to kick Obama in 2012...especially with the easily swayed "American Idol" voting masses.

If the job market does come back(reasonably), there are no scandals, and massive voter/campaign $$$ fraud from groups like ACORN/Soros are not addressed properly...then it's Obama in a walk.

Keeping pressure on Obama policies is the most important firewall right now...it's working...and the Obama loving media are crapping in their collective pants trying to tamp it down.

After that 2010 should be priority, and that requires getting great candidates with smarts and spines that can attract voters...old and young...and supporting them any way we can.

For some of us getting up there in age it may be the last chance to save the Republic from the scoundrels. I don't know about you but I don't feel like leaving this world by handing this country over to the hippies and hippie-wanna-be's...they've done enough damage to this country already....someone needs to tell the young people that...all they know is what "public education", liberal universities, and prime-time television have taught them...not exactly a good representation of America and it's values.

76 posted on 09/13/2009 5:05:29 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (That smell of death...be seeing ya big casino)
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There can be only one...Santorum is a decent feller but he has one leg too many for 2012...by my account anyhow.


77 posted on 09/13/2009 5:05:37 PM PDT by wardaddy (Bro and his czars...we have tar, feathers and rails waiting...and a road outta town..)
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No more senators!


81 posted on 09/13/2009 5:16:39 PM PDT by teg_76
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From May...

Thank Bush, Santorum for Specter party switch

85 posted on 09/13/2009 5:25:23 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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Forget it, Ricky. You endorsed Specter and then Slick Willard.


92 posted on 09/13/2009 5:45:32 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
Santorum WAS a good pro-lifer until he betrayed everything by working hard to help the evil Arlen Specter over the excellent candidate and true pro-lifer Pat Toomey. IIRC he campaigned for other pro-aborts as well.

I WILL NEVER TRUST SANTORUM AGAIN!

NO MORE COMPROMISED POLS! I WANT A TRUE PATRIOT!

HELL NO TO SANTORUM!!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1273280/posts

The Pennsylvania Treason (Arlen Specter)
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Posted: May 1, 2004 | By Mark Crutcher

Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 11:45:55 PM by vannrox

I have often asserted that, for the pro-life movement, the only practical distinction between the Democrat and Republican parties is that one is an enemy who will stab us in the chest and the other is a friend who will stab us in the back.

Tuesday's Republican primary in Pennsylvania proved my point. Hard-core abortion enthusiast Republican Arlen Specter was being challenged by pro-lifer Pat Toomey for the U.S. Senate. As the incumbent, Specter was predicted to win easily. But as Election Day approached, the polls clearly showed that Toomey was closing in fast and had a legitimate shot to pull off an upset.

That's when the GOP’s power brokers pulled out the heavy guns. President George W. Bush personally rushed to Pennsylvania and implored Republicans to get behind the candidacy of ... Arlen Specter. Equally amazing, Pennsylvania's other senator, Rick Santorum, also chose to walk away from his long-espoused pro-life principles. He joined Bush on the campaign trail and urged voters to defeat the pro-life challenger.

The fact that Specter's eventual margin of victory was so razor-thin made one thing absolutely undeniable. Without the influence and treachery of Bush and Santorum, we would have seen a raging pro-abort who has always been viciously hostile toward anything that the pro-life movement does replaced with a pro-lifer. It is laughable to suggest that the combined efforts of a Republican president and a Republican senator can't influence even 2 percent of the votes in a Republican primary. Given that, it is simply a fact that Bush and Santorum cost the pro-life movement this election.

One of the things that made this particular election so crucial for the pro-life movement is that, if re-elected, Specter's seniority will give him the chairmanship of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Pro-lifers often say that we must support the Republicans and George Bush because of Supreme Court appointments. However, that is now a dead issue given that no pro-life nominee to the Supreme Court is going to get past Specter.

If George Bush didn't know this when he used his influence to get Specter re-elected, then he really is as stupid as the Democrats say he is.

But of course, Bush is not stupid. He knew that by insuring Specter's victory he was ending any chance of putting a pro-lifer on the Supreme Court. That may not have been his goal; it was simply the price he was willing to pay to support an incumbent Republican.

Moreover, Specter's term is six years, which means that even if Bush wins in November, Specter will be in place for Bush's entire second term and beyond. With that reality in place, the practical difference between who John Kerry might get confirmed to the Supreme Court and who Bush might get confirmed becomes zero.

Bush and Santorum defenders will claim that if Toomey had won he might turn around and lose in the general election and, thereby, turn control of the Senate over to the Democrats.

That's garbage. First, upon what do these people base the assumption that Toomey could somehow beat the senior incumbent United States senator in his state, but then not be able to beat a non-incumbent Democrat? If their claim is that Toomey’s advocacy for the right-to-life makes him unelectable in a Pennsylvania general election, how do they explain Santorum’s election?

Second, from a pro-life perspective, who cares if the Democrats win if the alternative is a pro-abortion Republican? Are we supposed to believe that the unborn are better off with their fate is in the hands of pro-abortion Republicans than pro-abortion Democrats?

Third, what happened to principle? Regardless of political considerations, if Bush and Santorum were more than just rhetorically committed to the pro-life cause they would have never come to the aid of a pro-abortion candidate who was about to lose to a pro-life one. In fact, when they saw that Toomey actually had a chance, their response should have been to do what they could to secure the victory not work against it.

While we're on the subject of principle, there are going to be those who try to dismiss what these two did by regurgitating that old chin drivel about abortion being just one issue, and the GOP has to look at “other issues” as well. It's the same old worn-out “no litmus test” nonsense that we hear ad nauseam.

I'm always curious about this particular argument. I wonder whether the people who make it are willing to apply it across the board, or if it's just a convenient way to dodge the abortion issue. For example, if it were discovered that Specter was secretly a member of the Ku Klux Klan, would that be a litmus test? Would Bush and Santorum still campaign for him saying that they disagreed with him on this one issue but that they have to look at all these “other issues” as well?

I think not, and that points out the abysmal dishonesty of what they did in Pennsylvania. If a Republican candidate was a Klansman who openly espoused racism, neither of these guys would be caught in the same county with him. You can also bet that this Klansman's position on “other issues” would never even come up.

So despite all their beautiful rhetoric about the humanity of the unborn child, the fact that they will also work to elect politicians who say unborn children should be legally butchered by the millions speaks much louder. Their message is that when the subject is racism nothing else matters, but when the subject is baby killing there are “other issues” to consider. If you believe those are the actions of people who are truly committed to the pro-life cause, then you are in desperate need of a reality check.

In the final analysis, the Bush/Santorum betrayal was obviously the result of party politics. These guys sold the unborn down the river for political reasons, and they felt comfortable doing so primarily because the pro-life movement has always let them get away with it. For 30 years we have shown the Republican Party that whatever they do we'll stick with them, and as long as we keep sending that message we are fools to think they will ever change.

That is the bottom line, and while the American pro-life establishment is so enamored with having a seat at the Republican table that they will never say this, I will:

Through their participation in The Pennsylvania Treason, the Republican Party, George Bush and Rick Santorum have lost the right to ever again ask for the support of pro-lifers.

By the way, in a speech he gave to a Catholic prayer breakfast less than a week after the election, Rick Santorum told the audience that they should “... get closer to God to hear what He wants done ... God speaks in whispers and you will not know His will unless you are close (to Him). He is calling, let me assure you, He is calling.”

Apparently, Santorum believes that God called him to work for baby killers.

I'm skeptical.

Mark Crutcher is president of Life Dynamics Incorporated of Denton, Texas.

104 posted on 09/13/2009 6:47:16 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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Rick is a good man...but he shouldn’t be throwing his name ‘out’ there now. Or really ever. He carries some pretty hefty baggage. Sorry.

First off, for those who have suggested he run for the PA Governorship...or the Senate (again)...those bridges were pretty much burned when he moved to the Virginia suburbs of DC. He left PA for (understandably) the good of his family (a regular schedule; make big bucks in a Washington ‘ThinkTank.) Good for him...but his departure from office, representing PA was acrimonious to say the least.

When the the chips were down for the Republican Candidate, Benedict Arlen Specter (he was loosing in the Republican primary to Pat Toomey...the same Pat Toomey who is leading in the polls against Specter today!!!) Santorum caved. Party...yes...party trumped principle. Toomey was and is an ideologic twin of Santorum’s stances (Pro-Life; pro-smaller government; pro Second Amendment). But...at the behest of the IDIOTS in the National GOP...Santorum and GWBush campaigned across PA FOR SPECTER. Rick not only threw Toomey under the bus, he ran over him with it and then plastered a Specter bumper sticker on his forehead!!! There is a hideous soundbyte of Santorum being booed, at a rally at the Pittsburgh Internation Airport...and him stating ‘no, no, really...when the chips are down...Sen. Specter comes thru!!!’

Specter won. And in Arlen Specter fashion...IMMEDIATELY stabbed both Santorum and Bush in the back not only with votes...but with political manueverings. It was ugly.

Santorum...then received NO help from Specter in his campaign against the uber empty suit, Bobby Casey, Jr. Many ‘seasoned citizened’ voters thought they were voting for his late father (a prolife, social issue conservative) who bears the same name and was a respected, well liked PA Governor.

Thanks to the interference of the ‘party trumps all bunch’ and I blame GWB as much as I do Santorum...PA now has two liberal democratic Senators (Casey and Specter); instead of two conservatices, Santorum and Toomey. Think about two extra conservative votes on ObamaCare...

Election stump speeches, like elections, have consequences.


119 posted on 09/13/2009 7:52:59 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (They that can give up liberty 2 purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety)
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