Secret FDA Memos Reveal Concerns About (GMOs)

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[Mase]

LOL! First, it's I know GMO foods are dangerous, I just can't prove it. When that doesn't fly the argument morphs into "the jury is still out."

Monsanto lawyers, who now work for the government, are doing Monsanto's work to make the government work for Monsanto? Monsanto's success isn't because Monsanto makes a better product or that they have executed strategic licensing deals or that they have made smart acquisitions in the seed business. Obtaining patents through superior R&D efforts and then aggressively protecting those patents has nothing to do with their success either. It has everything to do with planting their people within the FDA and making them do their bidding. Uh, huh.

And what do we have for proof of this? No quid pro quo. Nothing. Nada. Isn't it Rush who says that it's the seriousness of the charge that matters not what you can prove. Conservatives that make you go hmmmmmmm.

[Toddsterpatriot]

But....but....jellyfish!

[parsifal]

Ah, Grasshopper, you look but you do not see. You listen but you do not hear. In silence one may hear the sound of one hand clapping.

parsy, the sensei who says you are missing the real truth here, and who will give you a chance to grok for yourself. (Or if you just need help, holler and I’ll tell you.)

[razorback-bert]

parsy, who used to live in Louisiana where we ate gar if we caught it.

I think, I know what is wrong with you now.

La. gar is GMed.

[Freedom56v2]

Did you hear about Monsanto? They made an expensive product with a lower yield that kills everyone who eats it. Diabolical!

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Did not see a /sarc Do you have a link to actual documentation on this? Like h1n1, people are posting all kinds of stuff; I sure would like accurate info rather than unsubstantiated wild accusations.

[Toddsterpatriot]

Sorry, I was combining the silly claims of the Monsanto bashers to mock their ignorance.

You were right about seedless watermelon, genetically modified, decades ago. So far as I've heard, still no deaths from that GMO.

[spodefly]

Parsy, rather than argue, here is what you should glean from this thread:

The FDA does a great job, and government ownership and oversight in everything from food to banking to automotive is innocuous and working as intended.

The company that gave us dioxins, PCBs, rBGH, false product labels, billions in environmental damages, etc., is actually a model of corporate citizenry with superior products and marketing whose thoroughly tested genetically modified foods are completely harmless and absolutely safe.

We have the FDA, Congress, and Ag-Biz working hand in hand to insure that everything is fine.

Relax.

[Freedom56v2]

Monsanto lawyers, who now work for the government, are doing Monsanto’s work to make the government work for Monsanto? Monsanto’s success isn’t because Monsanto makes a better product or that they have executed strategic licensing deals or that they have made smart acquisitions in the seed business. Obtaining patents through superior R&D efforts and then aggressively protecting those patents has nothing to do with their success either. It has everything to do with planting their people within the FDA and making them do their bidding. Uh, huh...

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Read that somewhere else of FR, but interestingly was watching Jim Cramer doing stock evals yesterday and he was rather bearish on ag sector—MON specifically —saying the govt is looking into anti-trust; Justice had been talking to DOW as well. So if they actual ly do in fact have lawyers working for the FDA, they would be well advised to have them relocated to Justice....

my point is I agree with you. Wish people around here would provide the proof for some of the posts they make.

[Freedom56v2]

Oh someone posted pretty much that on another thread—no documentation, just accusation. Facts seem to be in short supply on certain topics.

[Toddsterpatriot]

Everyone knows that the road to profits in America is to make a product that injures or kills your customers. That’s why Wyeth made Fen-Phen.

[Freedom56v2]

good point ;)

[Mase]

Everyone knows the road to profits in America is to make a product that injures or kills your customers.

No to mention feeding it to your family, the most important people in the world (Like soy, HFCS, GM Food, pasteurized and homogenized milk, MSG, aspartame, trans fats and on and on ad nauseam).

[airborne]

Everyone knows that the road to profits in America is to make a product that injures or kills your customers.

You mean invest heavily in China. That's what they specialize in.

[Mase]

From what I read Justice Dept.antitrust people are all over this seed issue, at the insistence of farmers and DuPont. We'll see what they do, if anything, but from what I can tell, Monsanto is just a better competitor. Why that rankles so many who claim to support capitalism and free markets is a mystery.

[Mase]

A great many people mistake opinions for thoughts.

Blessed is the man who, having nothing to stay, abstains from giving us worthy evidence of the fact.

[Toddsterpatriot]

Not to mention feeding it to your family

I heard Monsanto gets their money straight from the Fed, so they can afford to buy the real food.

[Freedom56v2]

Blessed is the man who, having nothing to stay, abstains from giving us worthy evidence of the fact.

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Love this—do you have a source? I’d like to make it into a plaque ;)

Seriously, it is good.

[Freedom56v2]

Why that rankles so many who claim to support capitalism and free markets is a mystery.

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Ditto that. Why anyone would trust the government or an eviro group is beyond me.

[parsifal]

More blessed, would be the man or woman, who meditated upon what was said. Such a person would realize the following subtleties: An industry would continue to tell lies about an obvious danger, one that everyone knew about. In fact, had known about since the previous century.

If an industry would do such a thing, when it was an obvious lie, how much more likely would other industries would lie when the danger was real, but not as obvious. That truth would necessitate some over group, perhaps government, be responsible for corraling the criminals.

parsy, who says OM MANI PADME HUM....

[Mase]

George Eliot is the author. I get a lot of mileage out of it. Truer words were never spoken and are highly appropriate for this thread.