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"We're pinned down":4 U.S. Marines die in Afghan ambush
McClatchy ^
| Tuesday Sept. 8, 2009
| Jonathan S.Landay
Posted on 09/10/2009 3:32:58 PM PDT by tencole
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To: tencole
“’We're pinned down:’ 4 U.S. Marines die in Afghan ambush”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2335142/posts
(P.S. I'm not a “this has already posted” cop. This type of story is important and goes a long way in exposing the flat out negligence on the part of Obama and his handling of the war in Afghanistan. People should be losing careers and ranks over this incident.
The above thread is just really good.)
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posted on
09/10/2009 4:31:30 PM PDT
by
444Flyer
(May God Bless and protect our Boots on the ground!)
To: BilLies
It is obvious that the military brass are the serviceman/woman “Death Panels.” The ROE are getting more Politicaally Correct and many have to die.
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posted on
09/10/2009 4:34:21 PM PDT
by
BilLies
To: tencole
One of these 4 lads was from my hometown.
God Bless them all.
63
posted on
09/10/2009 4:40:36 PM PDT
by
PGR88
To: tencole
Of the 13 Americans with the (about)80 Afghans some were U.S. Army, some U.S. Marines and at least one man from the U. S. Navy.
Three marines were killed and one sailor was killed along with 8 Afghan troops and an Afghan interpreter.
64
posted on
09/10/2009 4:44:27 PM PDT
by
ansel12
To: 444Flyer
I agree and this whole story makes me rage. These guys depend on close air support. What in the hell do you tell the families of these fallen Marines?
65
posted on
09/10/2009 4:51:50 PM PDT
by
randomhero97
("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
To: tencole
A failure of command. Prayers for the Marines’ loved ones.
66
posted on
09/10/2009 5:02:25 PM PDT
by
NonValueAdded
("The President has borrowed more money to spend to less effect than anybody on the planet. " Steyn)
To: randomhero97
Didn't you hear the presidential salute to them on Wednesday during the Son of OBama’s address to the joint houses of congress? The death of four servicemen must of slipped his mind, or maybe it is not as important as trying to take Palin and those pesky republicans down.
67
posted on
09/10/2009 5:03:40 PM PDT
by
BilLies
To: BilLies
I really don’t know what to say. Our boys are getting hung out to dry.
68
posted on
09/10/2009 5:07:08 PM PDT
by
randomhero97
("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
To: Night Hides Not
I have Marine relatives in Afghanistan.
Officers to enlisted
They are not the cut and run people.
This isn’t WWII when it would take the enemy weeks or months to hit the U.S.
It only takes mins.
The IslamOfascists who flew the plane into the Pentagon
lived 6 miles from me here in San Diego.
69
posted on
09/10/2009 5:09:37 PM PDT
by
SoCalPol
(Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
To: tencole
Vietnam II begins!
What better way to destroy the morale of our military: Dangerously restrictive ROEs & lack of air support.
70
posted on
09/10/2009 5:14:23 PM PDT
by
Mister Da
(The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
To: Mister Da
Vietnam II began years ago in Afghanistan....or should we call it Vietnam III since Obama has also increased the numbers of troops in Iraq?
To: NonValueAdded; randomhero97
Prayers for the Marines loved ones. And the sailor.
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posted on
09/10/2009 5:20:24 PM PDT
by
ansel12
To: rednesss
Yes, but it sounds like this was one of those joint operations. Arty was to be provided by the 10th Mountain Division. They didn’t even have the right shells on hand. Will the Commandant make a stand and say “no more,” Marines will support Marines?
73
posted on
09/10/2009 5:21:30 PM PDT
by
NonValueAdded
("The President has borrowed more money to spend to less effect than anybody on the planet. " Steyn)
To: ansel12
Thank you for catching that; absolutely yes “and the sailor.”
74
posted on
09/10/2009 5:23:03 PM PDT
by
NonValueAdded
("The President has borrowed more money to spend to less effect than anybody on the planet. " Steyn)
To: SoCalPol
Let me try to explain this to you once again. The ROE (rules of engagement) have changed. The strategy laid out from DC has no clear objectives. The military is fighting blindfolded and handicapped.
Since knowing someone who is in the military and in Afghanistan makes one an expert on strategy how then do you propose we continue to fight this "war?"
75
posted on
09/10/2009 5:26:27 PM PDT
by
randomhero97
("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
To: NonValueAdded
Thank you for catching that; absolutely yes and the sailor. Don't feel bad, it is an update, this thread article is two days old.
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posted on
09/10/2009 5:27:38 PM PDT
by
ansel12
To: rednesss
“I dont care what the Rules of Engagement are, you arent fit to wear the title - United States Marine, if you dont say my career be damned, Im not letting a fellow Marine die.”
You are right. Iraq and Afghanistan has taught a whole generation of soldiers that the enemy should be given every opportunity to kill you before you are allowed to kill them.
The entire command structure that allowed this to happen needs to be removed - since they didn’t have the good sense to resign in the face of this inevitable result.
Politics in the military is the enemy’s greatest ally.
To: ansel12
Thanks for the note on the sailor Ansell. Was he a Corpsman?
78
posted on
09/10/2009 5:30:57 PM PDT
by
444Flyer
(May God Bless and protect our Boots on the ground!)
To: NonValueAdded
Yes, but it sounds like this was one of those joint operations. Arty was to be provided by the 10th Mountain Division. They didnt even have the right shells on hand. Will the Commandant make a stand and say no more, Marines will support Marines? We don't know anything yet, although the pentagon has already challenged this one reporters account.
The 13 Americans accompanying the 80 Afghanistan soldiers, were a mix of American Army, Navy and Marines.
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posted on
09/10/2009 5:33:37 PM PDT
by
ansel12
To: 444Flyer
Yes, the sailor was a corpsman.
“KABUL — Navy medical corpsman James Layton, who was identified Thursday as one of those killed in an ambush in eastern Afghanistan, had been ministering to a wounded U.S. Marine on Tuesday when they came under a volley of insurgent bullets, killing them both and two more Marines, according to their comrades.”
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posted on
09/10/2009 5:38:11 PM PDT
by
ansel12
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