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Text of Baucus' Senate Finance Committee Health Care Reform Bill
Senate Finance Committee Website ^ | September 9, 2009 | Sen. Max Baucus and Staff

Posted on 09/09/2009 9:47:35 AM PDT by La Lydia

The U.S. health care system is in crisis. This crisis is not limited to the 46 million who lack health insurance – it extends to those who have health coverage but are worried about increasing costs. Rising health care costs affect families and American businesses, as health insurance premiums continue to outpace wages and inflation. Between 1999 and 2008, premiums for employer-sponsored health benefits increased 117 percent for families and individuals and 119 percent for employers. And annual health spending growth is expected to outpace average annual growth in the overall economy by 2.1 percentage points in each of the next ten years. In 2009 alone, health spending will increase 5.5 percent while gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to decrease 0.2 percent....

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KEYWORDS: healthcare; publicoption; socializedmedicine; taxes
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1 posted on 09/09/2009 9:47:36 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

Financing: Delivery system reform, reductions in health spending, and changes to the current tax treatment of health care alone may not pay for all of health care reform on their own. Many proposals expected to reduce health spending in the long run may not produce sufficient savings in the short run to finance reform. For this reason, other options may need to be considered. Other proposals to generate revenue for health care reform could include taxes that affect lifestyle choices and taxes that generally target loopholes. President Obama’s fiscal year 2010 budget contains a number of proposals to raise revenue, some of which may be able to help finance
comprehensive health care reform.


2 posted on 09/09/2009 9:50:28 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

Is this a CURRENT plan? It is dated May 20,2009.


3 posted on 09/09/2009 9:51:10 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: La Lydia

This isn’t the bill. It is a working document outlining strategies and options they are considering.


4 posted on 09/09/2009 9:52:03 AM PDT by cc2k (When less than half the voters pay taxes, it's called "taxation without representation.")
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To: cc2k

Max, why don’t you all agree to sign onto the plan. Don’t use parsing words like Steny Hoyer. He said he’d be willing to have the option to sign on too. I think it’s fair to assume that if single payer were to pass, the house, senate and all bureaucrats would never give up their plush insurance plan to sign on to a government ‘let them eat cake’ plan. This is a slippery bunch and the all need to be turned out next year.


5 posted on 09/09/2009 9:55:38 AM PDT by yorkie01
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To: La Lydia

Senate Finance Committee
Financing Comprehensive Health Care Reform:
Proposed Health System Savings and Revenue Options

The U.S. health care system is in crisis. This crisis is not limited to the 46 million who lack health insurance – it extends to those who have health coverage but are worried about increasing costs. Rising health care costs affect families and American businesses, as health insurance premiums continue to outpace wages and inflation. Between 1999 and 2008, premiums for employer-sponsored health benefits increased 117 percent for families and individuals and 119 percent for employers. And annual health spending growth is expected to outpace average annual growth in the overall economy by 2.1 percentage points in each of the next ten years. In 2009 alone, health spending will increase 5.5 percent while gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to decrease 0.2 percent.

Rising health care costs also have a significant impact on federal and state health care programs. Last week’s release of the 2009 Medicare Trustees Report indicates that the Medicare Hospital Insurance (HI) Trust Fund will be exhausted in 2017, two years earlier than last year’s report. Spending for Medicare and Medicaid is projected to increase by 114 percent in ten years. Over the same period, the GDP is projected to grow by just 64 percent. Last year, health spending in the U.S. represented 16.6 percent of our gross domestic product (GDP) – a much greater share than any other industrialized country. And according to the most recent National Health Expenditure estimates, health care expenditures will consume over 20 percent of the GDP by 2018, an amount representing $4.4 trillion in annual spending.

Recent studies have demonstrated that greater use of medical technology is an important factor contributing to rising health spending – contributing between 38 and 65 percent to health care cost increases. Other factors contributing to rising health costs include obesity and demographics.

Responsible health care reform must provide health care coverage for all Americans while at the same time reduce the rate of growth in health care spending. These goals must be achieved in a fiscally responsible manner with sustainable sources of funding. The purpose of this document is to outline policy options for financing comprehensive health care reform. Three specific areas of potential funding sources are explored: savings achieved from within the health care system from reductions in current levels of spending; reevaluating current health tax subsidies; and changes to non-health tax provisions.

As with the documents outlining policy options for delivery system reform and expanding health care coverage, this document is intended to spur discussion of proposed options that the committee is scheduled to act on in June. While these proposed options are jointly offered for discussion, not all the options in this document have the support of Chairman Baucus or Ranking Member Grassley.

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I'll be posting the text in several posts here.
6 posted on 09/09/2009 9:56:45 AM PDT by cc2k (When less than half the voters pay taxes, it's called "taxation without representation.")
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You are right. But this is the closest to text substance that they have released, and it isn’t difficult to see where they are going. It is my understanding that the actual text, in the appropriately cloudly legalese, won’t be released until shortly before it is introduced. Let the fun begin.


7 posted on 09/09/2009 9:57:08 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: cc2k

Ekk. You are right. Their link bounced me to this one, rather than the one advertised. And now I have downloaded the damn thing.


8 posted on 09/09/2009 10:01:32 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Trust but Verify

Now they have taken EVERYTHING down on his plan, with the exception of the May posting. Perhaps they are having technical problems.


9 posted on 09/09/2009 10:03:38 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia
Page 3, very disturbing. They consider tax advantages for employer sponsored health care a $132.7 billion “expenditure.” Additional “expenditures” bring the total to $194.2. These are just taxes that they aren't collecting because they are allowing us tax breaks for spending our money correctly. They think it's their money and they are “spending” it by letting us keep it.

I'm having problems cutting and pasting. Some of these pages are "scrambled" so that when you cut and paste, you get garbage.

10 posted on 09/09/2009 10:05:35 AM PDT by cc2k (When less than half the voters pay taxes, it's called "taxation without representation.")
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To: La Lydia
And annual health spending growth is expected to outpace average annual growth in the overall economy by 2.1 percentage points in each of the next ten years. In 2009 alone, health spending will increase 5.5 percent while gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to decrease 0.2 percent

I love when they throw around all the scary statistics but never really explain anything. Could the fact that we are in a recession combined with the fact that our aging baby boomers started retiring this past year have ANYTHING to do with the rise in health care cost and the decline in GDP? And 30 years from now, when most of the baby boomers are dead and gone (no offense, just fact of life) the panic and crisis will be over yet our kids will be saddled with a unsustainable, behemoth health care system that can't even support our declining population which, as a result, has far less freedom than we.
11 posted on 09/09/2009 10:07:53 AM PDT by John.Galt2012 (I'll take Liberty and you can keep the "Change"!)
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To: La Lydia
From Page 6,

Proposed Options Policy options to adjust annual market basket updates for Medicare fee-for-service providers are described in the MedPAC 2009 Report to Congress. These include reducing or eliminating market basket updates in 2010 for any provider payment area recommended by MedPAC. These market basket changes could be adjusted from the MedPAC recommended levels or could be accomplished over multiple years. An additional option in this area may include establishing differential payment updates for low and high-margin areas for fiscal year 2010 as well as in additional years.
This is about cutting Medicare benefits by reducing or eliminating some of the things that Medicare covers.
12 posted on 09/09/2009 10:08:48 AM PDT by cc2k (When less than half the voters pay taxes, it's called "taxation without representation.")
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To: cc2k

Apparently the text of his latest is not posted yet. There will be an update on this. It is useful, however, to see how they are thinking about these things.


13 posted on 09/09/2009 10:11:12 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia
From Page 7

Proposed Options

There are various policy options that could be considered in this area. One option may include implementing MedPAC’s recommendations regarding market basket adjustments in 2010 and contemplating further adjustments given the current levels of payments in the program.

Another option may be to direct the Secretary to “re-base” home health payments to better reflect the current number and mix of HH services and their level of intensity and to take into account the relative margins related to specific conditions and service areas. Finally, other options may include establishing a provider-specific annual cap on the number of allowable outlier episodes that HHAs can be reimbursed for in a year.


This is about reducing what Medicare will pay for home health services. One option (first paragraph), cover fewer types of services. Another option, just pay less for the covered services. Or don't pay for services to "remote" locations. So if you live outside a covered "service area" you either have to move closer to the provider(s) or Medicare won't pay for your home health care services.
14 posted on 09/09/2009 10:13:47 AM PDT by cc2k (When less than half the voters pay taxes, it's called "taxation without representation.")
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To: Trust but Verify
Trust but Verify wrote:
Is this a CURRENT plan? It is dated May 20,2009.
I missed that as well. Still, this May document is kind of scary. I realized that there was nothing in HR3200 to encourage more people to become doctors. But there are actually proposals in this document to cut funds for medical education.

The fundamental problem with all this "reform" that is being proposed is that none of it will actually reduce prices for medical services and goods. The only ways to reduce prices in the real world is to reduce demand or to increase supply. These "reform" proposals increase demand (by covering tens of millions of currently "uninsured" people), and now I see they may actually propose to reduce supply (by cutting funds for medical education).

More demand + less supply = much higher prices.

If you add "price controls" to "control costs", you get shortages and rationing.

These are fundamental properties of the world we live in. The laws of supply and demand can't be amended or repealed by legislative action.

15 posted on 09/09/2009 10:23:45 AM PDT by cc2k (When less than half the voters pay taxes, it's called "taxation without representation.")
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To: yorkie01

Max, why don’t you all agree to sign onto the plan.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d111:34:./temp/~bdlIrU:@@@L&summ2=m&;


16 posted on 09/09/2009 10:42:29 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: socialismisinsidious


Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care daily digest PING LIST

FReepmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this daily digest ping list.




17 posted on 09/09/2009 11:21:07 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: nina0113
Your link doesn't work. Most links from thomas rely on temporary files that cease to work within minutes.

Do you have a bill number? Or resolution number? What were you trying to link to? There are ways to make permanent links into Thomas, but you have to build the link yourself.

If you tell me what you are trying to link, I can post the permanent link. Or you can refer to Direct Links to Thomas Documents and Handles Help (for the new style "Legislative Handle" links).

18 posted on 09/09/2009 11:41:25 AM PDT by cc2k (When less than half the voters pay taxes, it's called "taxation without representation.")
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To: cc2k

The only ideas that will result in affordable care are coming from conservatives who can’t get their plans heard. Maybe we should buy time on the networks to present our alternatives?


19 posted on 09/09/2009 11:42:02 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: cc2k

It’s HRes 615 and 642 - both basically saying that Congress should be under the same government healthcare that gets imposed on the rest of us. Sorry about the link.


20 posted on 09/09/2009 11:59:05 AM PDT by nina0113
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