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Georgia Pastor Killed in Botched Drug Bust
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| 3 September, 2009
| Radley Balko
Posted on 09/07/2009 10:01:25 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
According to the video this looks very bad for the cops, they screwed up big time and killed a innocent man.
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posted on
09/07/2009 11:05:38 AM PDT
by
Eagles6
( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
To: marktwain
Are these the same cops who won’t engage in high-speed pursuit over concern for the safety of the “general public?” I thought so....
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posted on
09/07/2009 11:07:04 AM PDT
by
hoosier hick
(Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
To: bamahead; GeronL; Extremely Extreme Extremist; rabscuttle385
This is beginning to get considerable ink, and rightly so.
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posted on
09/07/2009 11:17:37 AM PDT
by
Clintonfatigued
(Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
To: marktwain
Just watched the surveillance video on Youtube. It’s not the clearest video, but it looks like Ayers did not attempt to hit the officers with his car. It looks like he was shot because he didn’t obey the officer and stop. It’s likely that this was a clear case of excessive use of force by police. They could have just jumped in their SUV and pulled the guy over later with their lights. If they didn’t have lights on the SUV, they could have just followed him until he went home and then talked to him. There was no need to shoot this man. This was a trigger-happy cop who used excessive force, by all appearances. I hope this gets a fair investigation and the cop is prosecuted if he committed manslaughter in this case. I know it’s not easy being a policeman and these people are very courageous, but if you can’t handle some threat to yourself without shooting then you shouldn’t be a police officer.
To: marktwain
They yelled, Police. Stop, Shirley said.
In this day and age, I would interpret someone shouting "Police. Stop" as a plea for the guy in the uniform to cease whatever extra-legal activity he is engaged in.
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posted on
09/07/2009 11:36:23 AM PDT
by
RobinOfKingston
(Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
To: marktwain
Chalk another innocent's death up to the idiotic War On Drugs.
How much more blood has to flow through the streets before common sense prevails and we end this stupidity?
"According to an article in the Atlanta Journal Constitution, the family were first told that he died in an automobile accident. After that, they were told that he had been shot. It was only later on that it was revealed to the family that it was an officer-related (aka 'isolated incident') shooting.
And this is yet another instance of a bunch of rat bastard pigs trying to cover there buts rather than come clean and deal with the facts. Absolutely no compassion for the innocent man they gunned down...they think of themselves first. I'll bet the ONLY reason they changed their tune was because of the video. I respect good cops, but those involved in this deserve nothing but condemnation. There's simply no defense for their behavior before or after the shooting.
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posted on
09/07/2009 11:47:45 AM PDT
by
rottndog
(WOOF!!! Be prepared for what's coming AFTER America.....)
To: PLMerite
.... Don't call me Shirley...
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posted on
09/07/2009 12:21:04 PM PDT
by
ExSoldier
(Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
To: marktwain
Developing story in Georgia, where church pastor Jonathan Ayers was shot and killed by undercover narcotics officers during a botched drug sting ....I hope those cops stand in good stead with the Lord. I wouldn't want to be standing in their shoes when they finally get to face HIM.
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posted on
09/07/2009 12:23:05 PM PDT
by
ExSoldier
(Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
To: rottndog
Yeah, when I watched the video I can’t see any reason whatsoever why the cops didn’t just jump in their SUV and follow the man home to question him. They had no reason to shoot him. I would bet that the training these police officers received was sub-standard and they weren’t properly trained in how to handle this kind of situation. They had no reason to use deadly force in this incident.
To: marktwain
"shot and killed by undercover narcotics officers"
no he wasn't shot by an undercover. it's a small point, but about on-par with idiot journalists who say 'assault rifle' when it's not an assault rifle.
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posted on
09/07/2009 12:24:45 PM PDT
by
thefactor
(yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
To: GulchBound
Good enough place to bump this thread and to pray for the family of the victim. Oh, and... uhh... I suppose I should also pray for the cops who shot an innocent man fleeing.
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posted on
09/07/2009 12:25:19 PM PDT
by
Kevmo
(So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
To: agere_contra
At the very best this was a clusterfrack is a successful multimillion dollar lawsuit that comes at least in part directly from the wallets of the officers at fault... - at worst, someone needs to go to jail.There, fixed it. You agree?
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posted on
09/07/2009 12:26:49 PM PDT
by
ExSoldier
(Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
To: marktwain
does the article say why the cops were after this woman and what business the pastor had with the woman?
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posted on
09/07/2009 12:26:53 PM PDT
by
thefactor
(yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
To: Drew68
they didn't even recover any drugs.
Probably because of the video, they were unable to "create" evidence.
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posted on
09/07/2009 12:39:49 PM PDT
by
Tailback
To: marktwain
It's sad. The man died and didn't even know who his attackers was. The whole Police department should be turned on its head and punished.
As a side note... is it just me, or are local law enforcement officers starting to turn up the oppression meter lately?
Why can't they just enforce the laws when people break them, instead of always going on snipe hunts. And most importantly, just leave us alone.
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posted on
09/07/2009 12:40:05 PM PDT
by
PureSolace
(Trust in God)
To: Kevmo
Oh, and... uhh... I suppose I should also pray for the cops who shot an innocent man fleeing. ... fleeing what he reasonably thought to be an ill-intentioned aggressor.
I would be willing to pray that they get ample opportunity to repent in this life and the next...
After forgiveness comes penance. Let these sad SOBs spend the rest of their life and their personal incomes providing for every conceivable need for this poor man's wife and unborn child.
Note that I said personal incomes, since as a taxpayer I didn't order or condone their actions and should not have to pay for their consequences. There were enough of them involved to provide quite comfortably for this man's wife and child. There isn't any room on this one for "oops, we're sorry" or "we were acting in good faith". This is straight out murder. Lock 'em up and bankrupt 'em.
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posted on
09/07/2009 2:07:51 PM PDT
by
GulchBound
(Who owns you?)
To: marktwain
There needs to be a better way for law enforcement officers to identify themselves other than by shouting "Police. Stop!" I mean are you honestly going to believe a bunch of guys in plain clothes who jumped out of an Escalade and pointed guns at you that they are the police? Under cover drug agents don't look like typical cops. Typical cops wear uniforms, have badges, and don't shoot preists.
Also, I thought the police aren't supposed to open fire on a suspect unless they are shooting in defense of their own lives. They might be able to claim self defense because one of them got behind his car while he was backing up, but you can't shoot at a car that is fleeing away from you.
To: marktwain
I wont bother reading any replies or the rest of the article before saying that these thugs need to be charged, convicted and hanged by the neck till dead...period...
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posted on
09/07/2009 3:25:45 PM PDT
by
Gilbo_3
(Luke 22:36...Trust in the Lord...=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
To: marktwain
Horrible.
There is no way I’d recognise what was being yelled at me in such a situation. Unknown men piling out of a car and screaming as they point guns at me from behind? I’d drive off in hope that the thugs would instead rob/kidnap whoever was left at the store. Self-defensive, not criminal - apparently meriting being shot in the back by a bunch of cowards.
You watch as they investigate themselves. They’ll still be found “in fear for their lives and had to defend themselves.” I can’t watch the videotape (dialup) but all the same I’ll bet the cops are cleared as “heros doing a dangerous job” who were “in a critical, fast-flowing situation.”
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posted on
09/07/2009 4:01:32 PM PDT
by
Titan Magroyne
(Freedom is taken, not given.)
To: BorisTheBulletDodger
I mean are you honestly going to believe a bunch of guys in plain clothes who jumped out of an Escalade and pointed guns at you that they are the police?Not even for a second. Same with no-knock warrants. I would reasonably presume that in either situation they were armed thugs with the foulest of intentions in mind.
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posted on
09/07/2009 4:40:36 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
(0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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