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Obama asks church help to debunk health-care 'lies' (WTH??)
This Christian Century ^ | 9/6/09 | staff

Posted on 09/06/2009 10:17:26 PM PDT by pissant

Facing incendiary charges that health-care reform would result in government financing of abortion and euthanasia, President Obama has made an unusual appeal to religious groups to help sell the plan and debunk critics' "false witness."

"I'm going to need the help of all of you," Obama told an August 19 conference call and live webcast that attracted an estimated 140,000 people. "I need you to knock on doors, talk to your neighbors. I need you to spread the facts and speak the truth."

The "40 Minutes for Health Reform" call, organized by the Washington-based group Faith in Public Life and supported by 32 religious organizations, was part of a campaign to get clergy and congregants actively involved in promoting health-care reform.

The president used the call to decry what he called "misinformation" and "divisive and deceptive attacks" in the ongoing debate. "There are some folks out there who are, frankly, bearing false witness," he said.

Obama called the idea that the legislation would include "death panels" to determine whether elderly patients live or die "an extraordinary lie." He said it was "not true" that the plans represent a "government takeover of health care" or "mean government funding of abortion."

"These are all fabrications that have been put out there in order to discourage people from meeting what I consider to be a core ethical and moral obligation, and that is that we look out for one another, that I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at christiancentury.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: churchandstate; larrysinclairslover; obama; obamacare
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Maybe he can get Rev. Wright out of retirement.
1 posted on 09/06/2009 10:17:26 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Hey 0bama, separation of Church and State.
Ever hear of it?

After 8 years of protest from the Left, I guess it’s suddenly OK now that a Democrat is in office...


2 posted on 09/06/2009 10:19:21 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: pissant

“...I am my brother’s keeper...”

So that was the punchline?


3 posted on 09/06/2009 10:19:53 PM PDT by EDINVA (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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To: pissant

If my preacher ever brought this up in a sermon I would stand and ask every single congregant to deduct from their church offerings dollar for dollar the amount their federal taxes go up in outgoing years.

See if maybe then the clergy will change their mind over this issue.


4 posted on 09/06/2009 10:20:20 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: pissant

This is a violation of the left’s own “separation of church and state!” Where the hell is the aCLU? Somebody wake those idiots up!


5 posted on 09/06/2009 10:20:58 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare! When "natural causes" just isn't good enough!)
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To: pissant

Doesn’t he also want those church members to “get in people’s faces” like he did during the campaign? He’s pathetic!!


6 posted on 09/06/2009 10:22:36 PM PDT by blondee123 (Welcome to Communism under B. Hussein OBAMA!)
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To: counterpunch

It’s only a Constitutional no-no when the lie-berals want it to be.


7 posted on 09/06/2009 10:22:52 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Proud Sarah-Bot.)
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To: pissant
Uh...he wants the churches to go ahead and tell America that he's lying?

So be it.


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8 posted on 09/06/2009 10:23:35 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: EDINVA
So that was the punchline?

Lol, I guess so!


9 posted on 09/06/2009 10:24:18 PM PDT by TXBlair (RG3!!)
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To: Jeff Head

It’s like Obama doesn’t even know what it’s like to live in the little socialist world he’s crafted.


10 posted on 09/06/2009 10:24:34 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Proud Sarah-Bot.)
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To: EDINVA

That’s the set-up. “Your brother lives in a hut” is the actual punchline.


11 posted on 09/06/2009 10:25:31 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (No health care reform without TORT reform!)
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To: pissant
Did Obama ask the religious to cover up their crosses while listening to his speech? If not, he is being inconsistent.


12 posted on 09/06/2009 10:26:20 PM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men)
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To: pissant
RE :”what I consider to be a core ethical and moral obligation, and that is that we look out for one another, that I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper, ” he said.

Just as Christ asked Rome to raise taxes at sword point on the Samaritans and Jews to pay for fish and bread and wine for Christians. You can see that, right? A moral obligation too.

13 posted on 09/06/2009 10:26:36 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: counterpunch

Is it me? The article is dated SEPTEMBER 22, 2009..


14 posted on 09/06/2009 10:27:38 PM PDT by max americana (i)
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To: EDINVA

The punchline is that he has a brother on Africa that lives in a shack and he can’t even take care of him.


15 posted on 09/06/2009 10:27:42 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: pissant
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16 posted on 09/06/2009 10:28:56 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare! When "natural causes" just isn't good enough!)
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To: pissant

Separation of Church & state is only for conservative churches and conservative politicians. Have you not been paying attention? Just like protests and questioning those in power is only for the left.


17 posted on 09/06/2009 10:30:51 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: pissant

If there is no euthenasia, then WHY does Obama himself keep listing medical procedures which he claims you, your mom, or your kids, don’t need or shouldn’t receive?

This is what gets me, Obama keeps lecturing us that we and our family “don’t need” medical treatment we currently receive.

What else would you call that? It’s going to kill people.


18 posted on 09/06/2009 10:31:34 PM PDT by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: counterpunch; FlingWingFlyer; HiTech RedNeck
1. Ahhhh oooohhh???

IRS PUBLICATION Publication 1828 (Rev. 06-2008)

“………………….Churches and religious organizations, like many other charitable organizations, qualify for exemption from federal income tax under IRC section 501(c)(3) and are generally eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions. To qualify for tax-exempt status, such an organization must meet the following requirements (covered in greater detail throughout this publication):

--- the organization must be organized and operated exclusively for religious, educational, scientific, or other charitable purposes,
--- net earnings may not inure to the benefit of any private individual or shareholder,
--- no substantial part of its activity may be attempting to influence legislation,
--- the organization may not intervene in political campaigns, and
--- the organization’s purposes and activities may not be illegal or violate fundamental public policy. ..................."

19 posted on 09/06/2009 10:31:43 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen ( Bitter voter, clinging to my wallet and doctor)
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To: max americana
Is it me? The article is dated SEPTEMBER 22, 2009..

Weird. All I see is 9/6/09. Where are you looking?

20 posted on 09/06/2009 10:31:43 PM PDT by TXBlair (RG3!!)
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