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To: southernnorthcarolina
I don't believe very fat people can handle refined carbohydrates. When they're not dieting, most fat people ingest too many calories of all types of food, so Atkins at least cuts the most troublesome foods out of their diets. Even assuming this study is valid, its findings may not be relevant to obese people. When people are saddled with hundreds of pounds of fat and addicted to bagels and muffins, the long-term dangers of too much steak don't much matter.
8 posted on 09/05/2009 5:24:42 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: utahagen
When people are saddled with hundreds of pounds of fat and addicted to bagels and muffins, the long-term dangers of too much steak don't much matter.

Bingo!!

31 posted on 09/05/2009 7:21:58 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: utahagen

Four things were obvious about the Atkins diet:
1. LDL (good) went up
2. Triglycerides were lowered
3. Avg weight loss was 30% more (considered insignificant by the authors)
4. HDL was elevated by a few percent (considered significant by the same authors)

One of his books (coauthor) is previewed on Google thusly:

“CSIRO as a leading authority in dietary research, was contacted by many dieticians with concerns about the promotion of high protein diets, without reliable supporting evidence.

CSIRO as a leading authority in dietary research, was contacted by many dieticians with concerns about the promotion of high protein diets, without reliable supporting evidence.The Clinic had conducted studies over the years with different types and different levels of protein.

The benefits they showed are subtle but are at least as effective as traditional high carbohydrate, low-fat diets.

To investigate further, Clinic researchers studied 100 overweight and obese women on two different diets over a period of 12 weeks. The women were divided into two groups:

one group was placed on a high protein, low fat diet,
the other group was given a high carbohydrate, low fat diet.
Dr Noake’s team had a hypothesis - that if kilojoule intake for each diet was the same then there shouldn’t be any difference in weight loss.

But they did see a difference.

More weight and fat was lost by the women on the higher protein diet, particularly if they had high blood fats, called triglycerides.

More dropped out of the high carbohydrate diet, which was a surprise, because they didn’t expect the high protein foods to appeal to women as much as the starchy foods.

So the higher-protein diet was more successful because people preferred it!

The CSIRO Total Wellbeing Diet, rrp A$34.95, is available from CSIRO PUBLISHING and most bookstores.”

The theme of their studies seems to eschew fats of any kind up to now.


61 posted on 09/06/2009 9:17:41 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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