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To: AndrewC
The fact that two indepentdent agencies came to the same conclusion indicates you are blowing smoke.

Independent, driven by partisanship.

NCSE is not a co-worker.

The hateful emails came from his coworkers, people at the SI. The NCSE was the calm voice of reason in this after they got involved. Poor baby's got a thin skin, especially for the cutthroat world of science.

What you consider as just a little hostility, is against the law when conducted against a government employee.

That might have something to do with this case if Sternberg had been a government employee.

He was reduced to an RC from an RA after the controversy.

Bringing up that discredited claim again? His term as an RA was coming to its scheduled end and he didn't get a new sponsor (that guy who offered apparently didn't follow through) to renew his status as an RA. They were gracious and offered him an RC position after his term expired despite his mishandling of SI artifacts, despite his disgrace as a scientist, and despite all the supposed discrimination.

Blithely attempting to brush off the fact that NCSE has no reason to be involved.

Why not? The SI would want to get more information about the scientific misconduct of one of its RCs. Are you saying the SI was supposed to turn a blind eye to conduct that threatened the good standing of a scientist associated with the SI? The NCSE is a clearinghouse for information on the IDers, why not go there?

He retained a "position" at SI, even though the "position" was a "demotion" caused by the conspiracy. That is plain fact.

See above. It's a plain fact that his term ended as is normal SI procedure for all SAs.

whose only "sin" was to allow the publication of an article counter to the dogma promoted by NCSE.

Whose only sin was to bypass normal editorial policy in order to railroad an inferior publication authored by a freind of his, subjecting the Journal and the Society, and by extension the SI, to ridicule. Interesting how Sternberg stepped down right after putting that into the Journal. He probably knew he'd be fired for such gross malfeasance.

793 posted on 09/09/2009 1:01:33 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Independent, driven by partisanship.

Your opinion. So what?

NCSE was the calm voice of reason in this after they got involved.

It doesn't matter what they were. They had no business there. PERIOD. Their involvement is de facto evidence of a conspiracy. You no doubt would be screaming to high heaven had DI approached the Smithsonian as intimately as NCSE did. You have fits and conniptions over DI sending a DVD or two and book to a school board.

That might have something to do with this case if Sternberg had been a government employee

Of course, it would have to do with liability. The actions of SI and NCSE remain.

His term as an RA was coming to its scheduled end and he didn't get a new sponsor

Another lie or misstatement. Dr. Vari was his sponsor. All appointments evidently need sponsors.

Scholars seeking an academic appointment must be formally nominated by a member of the NMNH research community. A complete curriculum vita is required as part of the nomination packet as well as reprints of recent publications.

The NCSE is a clearinghouse for information on the IDers, why not go there?

First, Sternberg is neither a YEC nor likely an ID'er. Second, NCSE intruded, they were not asked in after somebody stumbled on a misconduct. Sternberg was not charged with any misconduct. Read the congressional report. The BSW council could only state that they would not have published the paper. They admit that the editor has great leeway. Third, NCSE, as you have admitted acted with authority that they didn't have. You routinely conflated them with SI management.

Whose only sin was to bypass normal editorial policy in order to railroad an inferior publication authored by a freind of his, subjecting the Journal and the Society, and by extension the SI

SI has no connection to the BSW. Railroad is your opinion as was your opinion that it had not been peer-reviewed.

794 posted on 09/09/2009 2:31:25 PM PDT by AndrewC
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