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To: antiRepublicrat
Let me guess, you bought the spin

You've been guessing all along so why stop now. No, no spin. And you are either lying or incorrect about the "Top Secret".. Look for yourself...

The Wedge Document

That said, this is not about "The Wedge" this is about Scopes as a conspiracy and your alledged conspiracy involving DI in the Dover case. So far you have struck out. You will notice that the vote about ID occurred on Oct 18, 2004 and DI stepped away from the vote when asked on Nov 12, 2004. What the vote in Oct. stated was ....Students will be made aware of the gaps/problems in Darwin's theory and of other theories of evolution including, but not limited to, intelligent design. Note: Origins of life is not taught." This is what DI would not support on Nov 12. Then on Nov 19 the Dover Area School District made a press release which included...

The Pennsylvania Academic Standards require students to learn about Darwin's theory of evolution and eventually to take a standardized test of which evolution is a part.
Because Darwin's Theory is a theory, it is still being tested as new evidence is discovered. The Theory is not a fact. Gaps in the Theory exist for which there is no evidence. A theory is defined as a well-tested explanation that unifies a broad range of observations.
Intelligent design is an explanation of the origin of life that differs from Darwin's view. The reference book, Of Pandas and People is available for students to see if they would like to explore this view in an effort to gain an understanding of what intelligent design actually involves.
As is true with any theory, students are encouraged to keep an open mind. The school leaves the discussion of the origins of life to individual students and their families. As a standards-driven district, class instruction focuses upon preparing students to achieve proficiency on standards-based assessments.

The ACLU then sued on behalf of 11 parents on Dec 14, 2004. NCSE was involved in the plaintiff's side by their own admission. They started looking at Dover in Jun 2004, four months before the Oct vote on the inclusion of a statement.

Read again: Started by the Discovery Institute as part of their "teach the controversy" program. They only withdrew after they saw they had a losing case.

B.S. prove it. I told you that NCSE was triggered on the Dover situation in Jun. It had nothing to do with DI.

Wedge Document, Phase III, second sentence: "We will also pursue possible legal assistance in response to resistance to the integration of design theory into public school science curricula."

When was phase three supposed to occur? (And that was in this "Top secret" document which was not labeled so). Put your money where your mouth is. Show me the marked "Top Secret" document and show me the involvement of DI in this conspiracy that NCSE sniffed out in Jun.

730 posted on 09/06/2009 10:00:14 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
The NCSE’s Scott wrote about their own “wedge document” back in 2000, called “The Creation/Evolution Continuum” to be used with the purpose of countering the creationist beliefs of kids in school.
732 posted on 09/06/2009 10:33:33 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: AndrewC
You will notice that the vote about ID occurred on Oct 18, 2004 and DI stepped away from the vote when asked on Nov 12, 2004.

There you go. The DI was involved in the beginning by your own admission. They stepped out when they realized the defense had screwed up, and they didn't want to be part of a losing test case. The DI was smart, and right. The defense having established their religious motives beforehand lost them the case.

I told you that NCSE was triggered on the Dover situation in Jun.

Because that's about when the DI was in talks with the board over "teach the controversy." Yes, that is a program of the DI. The DI has been doing this exact same thing in many states. In fact, losing the Dover case essentially killed another growing "teach the controversy" effort in, IIRC, Iowa. Do you know what "teach the controversy" is? It is exactly what the Dover board did, try to tell students that there is a real scientific controversy. This is the foot in the door, the Wedge, for ID and then creationism.

When was phase three supposed to occur?

You've supposedly read the document.

And read the story of how the Wedge Document became public Here.

745 posted on 09/07/2009 12:32:49 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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