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To: AndrewC
ou are at a severe disadvantage since tenure was not involved and "Darwinians" contend that Sternberg did not have a job to lose.

Two different guys from the movie. The one who didn't get tenure was Guillermo Gonzalez. His publication rate had sharply declined since joining ISU, he wasn't mentoring his grad students well enough to complete their programs, and he was bringing in relatively very little money in research grants. Someone with a record like that shouldn't get tenure.

Sternberg really didn't have a job. He was a research associate, someone not employed by the SI, but affiliated in order to do research. You get that position for a set period of time by being sponsored by an SI director. When the term's up, you leave, unless your sponsor renews your status.

712 posted on 09/06/2009 2:23:47 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Sternberg really didn't have a job. He was a research associate, someone not employed by the SI, but affiliated in order to do research. You get that position for a set period of time by being sponsored by an SI director. When the term's up, you leave, unless your sponsor renews your status.

That is a B.S. argument. NCSE was involved in the situation and if your explanation was true, would have had no business in contacting the Smithsonian about a publication by another entity located in Washington State.

718 posted on 09/06/2009 6:01:25 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: antiRepublicrat

“The one who didn’t get tenure was Guillermo Gonzalez. His publication rate had sharply declined since joining ISU, he wasn’t mentoring his grad students well enough to complete their programs, and he was bringing in relatively very little money in research grants.”

I would like to see proof of this. From what I heard; his work was very good.
I tried to follow this very closely, as my alma matter is the one who denied him tenure.
All of the anti-Christian machinery at Iowa State was after him.

He kept his ID work out of the classroom. But he was well known for it, due to a well known video he produced.
So the hate God crowd put a target on his back.


742 posted on 09/07/2009 10:22:50 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Just say no to Soylent Green health care)
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