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To: antiRepublicrat; GodGunsGuts; Fichori

“Are you talking about the lies in Ben Stein’s movie? “

No, more like the guy who worked in the Smithsonian, here....

Museum Officials Oust Research Associate Open to Intelligent Design Theory (Smithsonian)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1802847/posts

Or the science minister in Canada who wouldn’t comment on his views relating to God and creation and was facing a frenzied mob of evo/atheists who were demanding his career on a silver platter.

(ping to someone who may have a link to that thread)


686 posted on 09/06/2009 11:18:26 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; antiRepublicrat; GodGunsGuts
“Or the science minister in Canada who wouldn’t comment on his views relating to God and creation and was facing a frenzied mob of evo/atheists who were demanding his career on a silver platter.” [excerpt]
That would be Mr. Goodyear. (can't find his first name right off)

“(ping to someone who may have a link to that thread)” [excerpt]
For starters:

Minister won't confirm belief in evolution

Science or creation? Thou art too nosy
687 posted on 09/06/2009 11:29:40 AM PDT by Fichori (Make a liberal cry.... Donate -> https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/ <-)
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To: metmom
The Smithsonian guy was another of the lies in the Ben Stein movie.

Lost his office? Part of a larger move involving over a dozen associates. They were offered identical new offices, the others accepted, Sternberg refused. A second move was at his own request.

Took his keys? All associates lost their keys in a security revamp, and they were all issued access badges. He never lost access to anything he needed to do his work.

Demoted from Associate to Collaborator? His term was due to end anyway, and his sponsor (necessary for the associate status) was dead. They renewed him as a Collaborator and he didn't lose access to anything he needed to do his work.

The published paper? He didn't follow procedure and consult the staff subject expert editors for peer review before publication, and did it right before he left his post as editor. Basically, he sneaked it in, and this wasn't the first time. A quote from an NCSE exec:

“First, above all, we believe strongly that the discussion should not be a referendum on Dr. von Sternberg’s personal scientific beliefs, even though they clearly fall outside of the normal scientific mainstream. Obviously Dr. von Sternberg’s religious beliefs are also off the table. The focus should be on the fact that he allowed into the pages of PBSW a paper that was inappropriate for the journal in both content and quality”
Sternberg was also repeatedly warned about his gross mishandling of museum artifacts and books, not a good thing at the Smithsonian.

They treated him with kid gloves, where I would have fired him purely for his conduct.

Sternberg is a very clear case of pulling the ID card. You screw up bad and claim persecution when things don't go your way. Sounds familiar. I knew a disabled minority woman who was a total screw-up at work and they had a hell of a time firing her with all of the EO complaints she'd lodge to claim persecution. They eventually gave up and she stayed, and they just put her someplace where she couldn't hurt anything.

694 posted on 09/06/2009 1:12:42 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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