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To: nuke rocketeer
“A God who creates a situation where easily discovered physical laws and visual data contradict the scriptures he supposedly caused to be written is not a god I'll worship.” [excerpt]
So you have faith that you have not been tricked by an evil being.

“I don't have faith in the facts.” [excerpt]
When you are holding a fossil, you have faith that you have not being tricked by an evil being into thinking you are holding a fossil.

“The facts are the facts, no faith required.” [excerpt]
However, the underlying philosophy that you use to decide what is fact, and what isn't, is based on faith.

“The facts fit and verify current physics, again no faith required.” [excerpt]
And you place great faith in that your understanding of physics is correct.

“Faith is required only when you deny the evidence that proves your religious based age is wrong.” [excerpt]
Actually, faith is required every time you accept an assumption as true.

“You have faith in your theory, no facts to back it up.” [excerpt]
Sorry, I'm not an Evolutionist.

“BTW....the 4.5 billion year age for earth (+-200 million)is an established fact backed by the physical evidence and confirmed physics.” [excerpt]
And yet, that age is arrived at based on untestable philosophical assumptions.

IOW, the basis for those dearly beloved 4.5 billion years is an assumption that cannot be tested and shown to be true, and thus must be accepted on faith.

“A collection of tribal oral histories is not verifiable evidence.” [excerpt]
Christ verified the writings of Moses.


“You are correct, science is a tool. But its use does not require faith that it works, as it explains the facts in a verifiable way.” [excerpt, bold emphasis mine]
Will science work tomorrow?

How do you know that?

You are not an omnipotent, omnipresent, all knowing being, and you've not been to tomorrow and seen if science will still work.

Oh, thats right, you accept it as a matter of faith that every time you go to use it, science will still work and that you are not being tricked by some evil being.

Right?
402 posted on 09/05/2009 10:00:48 AM PDT by Fichori (Make a liberal cry.... Donate -> https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/ <-)
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To: Fichori

I hadn’t really thought about the concept of the Devil being the great Deceiver.


462 posted on 09/05/2009 2:54:05 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Fichori

I do not have to have faith that a tool works tomorrow. it either continues working, or I scrap it and get a new one.


508 posted on 09/05/2009 5:38:34 PM PDT by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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