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To: Fichori
"...And now for your next trick, do a repeatable demonstration of your points ;-)..."

You have suggested that Hydrologic sorting is responsible for the evidence all over the world that fossils are organized into strata by species boundaries. You make this claim to explain away the lack of finding "anachronistic" fossils co-mingled all over the place, as would be the case if all species were present on the Earth at the same time.

I explained that the forces involved with the settling of objects suspended in media work the same on objects of the same size and mass (size and mass together give density). For an example, let's take a rabbit skull, and a baby velociraptor skull, each of similar size and mass.

Since you are offering this as an explanation, it is incumbent upon you to demonstrate the following two points:

(1) How is it possible for these blind hydrostatic forces to distinguish between, say rabbit skulls and velocirapter skulls, and ALWAYS sort them so that the velociraptor skulls end up below the rabbit skulls? How is it able to do this flawlessly for the 1000's of species found?

(2) Explain how these forces were in play EVERYWHERE on the Earth, so that ALL the Earth's fossils get sorted, not just places where EXCEPTIONAL conditions prevailed.

"...And you appear to be forgetting, those floodwaters receded when the mountains rose up. (thats someplace to rush from/to)..."

Here is your chance to play God. Get a child's plastic pool, the 1 foot deep and 4 foot diameter kind. Make sure it is the kind with a drain plug.

Using clay, dirt, rocks, sand and other earthy materials, create a landscape in the pool. Don't make the features taller than the sides of the pool, or you won't be able to cover them in water.

Fill the pool with water, to cover the features. For added effect, float a toy boat if you like.

Once full, wait a bit, then pull the plug.

Watch the "rushing"! Observe how the water will gently recede from the "landscape" you created in the pool.

Now, in order to create "rushing" waters from the floodwaters receding, you will have to "magically" remove about half the water FROM ONE SIDE OF THE POOL ONLY, so that the water piled higher on the other side HAS SOME PLACE TO RUSH TO. You can of course claim that God simply removed half the water, so that the rest would rush around, but that is not science, that is magic.
379 posted on 09/05/2009 7:38:52 AM PDT by Rebel_Ace (Tags?!? Tags?!? We don' neeeed no stinkin' Tags!)
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To: Rebel_Ace
You can of course claim that God simply removed half the water, so that the rest would rush around, but that is not science, that is magic.

We are postulating a God who just flooded the entire world to a depth greater than the highest peak.

We are talking miracles here -- and you are trying to use science to bound the miracle. By science, the flood never could have happened. The flood was "magic".

386 posted on 09/05/2009 7:59:17 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Rebel_Ace
“You have suggested that …” [excerpt]
Then why didn't you quote me?

“For an example, let's take a rabbit skull, and a baby velociraptor skull, each of similar size and mass.” [excerpt]
I didn't realize that Noah killed all the animals and let his pet Dermestidae clean them before the flood.

“(1) How is it possible for these blind hydrostatic forces to distinguish between, say rabbit skulls and velocirapter skulls, …” [excerpt, bold emphasis mine]
Your presupposition is false. (who cleaned the skulls?)

“(2) Explain how these forces were in play EVERYWHERE on the Earth, so that ALL the Earth's fossils get sorted, not just places where EXCEPTIONAL conditions prevailed.” [excerpt]
Within the framework defined by Rebel_Ace, there is no explanation.

“Watch the "rushing"! Observe how the water will gently recede from the "landscape" you created in the pool.” [excerpt]
You have defined a catastrophic global flood involving massive geological activity to be equivalent to a draining pool.

Ridiculous.

“Now, in order to create "rushing" waters from the floodwaters receding, you will have to "magically" remove about half the water FROM ONE SIDE OF THE POOL ONLY, so that the water piled higher on the other side HAS SOME PLACE TO RUSH TO.” [excerpt]
Or rapidly lift up the middle of the pool.
409 posted on 09/05/2009 10:26:39 AM PDT by Fichori (Make a liberal cry.... Donate -> https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/ <-)
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