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I brought up the fact of his being a newb because he had the audacity to tell me I was harming Christianity (previous thread) the first time I ran into Mr. Socialist's retread-self, and then he turns around and tells me that I should donate to FR to pay for the wasted bandwidth I'm supposedly taking up, and then admits almost in the same breath that he has NEVER DONATED HIMSELF. If you can't see why I might have a problem with a newb taken that sort of tact with me (a regular contributor to FR), then I can only conclude that is because you are a fellow partisan Temple of Darwin co-religionist of Mr. Socialist-Retread.

I've always enjoyed reading through your threads, even though I disagree with some of your positions regarding the age of the universe/earth, but everyone is entitled to their opinions, so I will avoid that argument.

By the way, this is my latest image I took on 8/24/2009 of the Eagle Nebula M16. At about 7000 light years distance from earth. The famous Hubble shot of the pillars of creation, are at the center of this image. Not quite Hubble though.

The dark pillar-like structures (center) are actually columns of cool interstellar hydrogen gas and dust where new stars are forming. Although you can see the pillars in this image, you're seeing the nebula as it looked approximately 7,000 years ago.

The height of the tallest pillar is approximately 24 trillion miles high (4 light years).

This was 44-95 second exposures at ISO-800, aligned, calibrated and combined, taken from my small backyard observatory.

I was actually quite pleased with this shot, and surprised the data processed out as well as it did.

"...I can only conclude that is because you are a fellow partisan Temple of Darwin co-religionist of Mr. Socialist-Retread..."

Your keen powers of deduction are nothing short of breathtaking.

"I brought up the fact of his being a newb because he had the audacity to tell me..."

My, my. If an "evo" uttered those words, you would no doubt take them to be arrogant. "...Who is he to tell me..." you said that earlier as well.

What you actually said was "BUZZ OFF, NEWB". Now, I don't give a royal rip whether you or socialismislost donates to FR. What does jangle my nerves is the bullying of a new member. Socialismislost suggested that you:

(a) Donate to FR
-and-
(b) Start your own site if you want Darwin 24/7, and have no interest in other points of view.

Those two suggestions are rational and sensible, and were framed in civil language. Those suggestions remain rational and sensible whether the person making them has been here 11 minutes or 11 years, and you know it. It is evidenced by the fact you REFUSE to grant me the right to tell you to "buzz off" because I have been here longer than you.

Claims of superior argument cannot be made by the time spent here, or the amount of money given. If that were the case, Mr. Robinson could simply assign a "Rock-Scissors-Paper" rating for each member, based on donations or time, and those arguments would always be posted over those of poorer members, or those not here as long.

Again the central point remains: Why post this over and over if you are not interested in discourse, only affirmation?

GGG he is correct you are harming Christianity with your repeated anti-science rhetoric

Your mean spirited replies, and insults are not very Christ like behavior.

I am sure Christ would be quite proud of you for insulting myself and my deceased Grandfather, because I simply asked a question that you refused to answer.

You are driving non-believers away from salvation.

Isn’t pride one of the seven deadly sins?