[[But “reasonable arguments” are not reasonable to those of us who have had adverse reactions.]]
No that’s not what I said- I specifically said those hwo have had bad reactiosn should not take the shot- I said that several times infact- however, I am also pointign out that people, myself included in past times, tend to look at isolated cases- which can be extreme- no doubt- and might conclude that it’s very risky when the facts are that for the mass majority of peopel it’s very safe- you’re chance of gettign struck by lightening is greater than having a bad reaction- and we can’t let fear keep us indoors everytime there’s a storm forcast- BUT for those hwo have had bad reactions, there is an obvious increased risk that yes, you should avoid
[[There are contraindications in any medication. When you get one, you no longer use that drug.]]
Which is what I’ve said right along- but let’s keep this in perspective- for the majority of people, there aren’t reactions, or very mild reactions which are easily tolorated compared with what the flu can do.
[[That’s what you are doing]]
NO Ma’am- don’t put words in my mouth- you’ve missed my point- I have searched the swine flu quite a bit, and it’;s just incredible the scare monguering that goes on based on what? Isolated cases of bad reactions? When these isolated cases are compared to the amount of help the shots provide for the mass majority, the scare tactics end up hurting people who would have been helped had they not been scared off because soem peopel have adverse reactions- I’m NOT saying that is what you are tryign to do- but I’ve seen several of these threads pop up recently, and I’m willing to bet that a lot of peopel wil lbe influenced and iwll be putting htemselves at risk of hte flu unecessarily because htei mpression is left that it’s a case of russian ruelette if you get hte lfue shot- but the facts don’t bear this out for hte majority of people
Now, this new flu vaccine may be a different story as not much is known yet, and I’m certainly NOT statign that it’s safe- as you mentioend, most meds have a small risk of complications- I had to take anti-cancer drugs which had a ‘low risk of lung infections’ and guess what? I kept getting them- ended up in hospital 3 times fightign to breathe- and hwen I told my doctor about it, he just looked incredulous, and insinuated that he ‘doubted I was getting lung infections as the risk was very low’ and blamed it on my asthma- I’ve had asthma for all my life, and htese infectiosn were much more than asthma- which I’ve NEVER had a fever with, nor spit up gunk like I experienced when I ended up in hospital, AND the antibiotics I was given at hte time cleared the problems up- AFTER coming off the cancer drugs, I have not had another infection-
Let me be clear here- IF you have had reactions, and they were severe- I say stay away fro mthe flu shot- can’t stress that enough, as these reactions could be life threatening- However, for htose that are healthy, and have no had reactions, or had just mild reactions, I beleive the danger from the swine flu far outwiegh the risk of a reaction fro m the shot.
There was another thread here on FR which basically was sayign that peopel should avoid the flu shot because soem people developped Guillian Barre (sp?) after getting the shots- BUT upon further investigation, it was foudn that peopel were LESS likely to get the condition after gettign hte shot- it actually REDUCED the risk- but. hte thread made it look like the shot was far too risky to take-
Let’s just look objectively, and make decisiosn hen- IF people are scared off from the shot unduly, then this virus IS goign to spread much farhter, faster, and more virulently, putting young, old, and people with health problems at greater risk- Worldwide, 200,000 to 500,000 peopel die from the regular flu each year, and htis swine flu could end up killing millions unless we do what we can to prevent it- for htose who CAN take the shot without problems, it wil lhelp slow the virus down- and yes, there WILL be soem that develop problems- but compared to how many people will survive, and not have complications due ot hte flu- I think it’s so far looking ok to take hte shots. That’s all I’m saying at this point- but watch the news- see if the risks fro mthe shot rise i nthe near future,- and act accordingly- So please don’t misrepresent what I’m sayign on the issue
When you point out ANYWHERE that I said no one should get a flu shot, we’ll talk.
You are the poster who seems to be campaigning for them.
Everyone here has said ‘I’ won’t get one. Not YOU shouldn’t.