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Health care reform means more power for the IRS(Is this what Americans want more of???)
washington examiner ^ | 9/3/09 | Byron York

Posted on 09/03/2009 12:54:06 PM PDT by bestintxas

There's been a lot of discussion about the new and powerful federal agencies that would be created by the passage of a national health care bill. The Health Choices Administration, the Health Benefits Advisory Committee, the Health Insurance Exchange — there are dozens in all.

But if the plan envisioned by President Barack Obama and Congressional Democrats is enacted, the primary federal bureaucracy responsible for implementing and enforcing national health care will be an old and familiar one: the Internal Revenue Service. Under the Democrats' health care proposals, the already powerful — and already feared — IRS would wield even more power and extend its reach even farther into the lives of ordinary Americans, and the presidentially-appointed head of the new health care bureaucracy would have access to confidential IRS information about millions of individual taxpayers.

In short, health care reform, as currently envisioned by Democratic leaders, would be built on the foundation of an expanded and more intrusive IRS.

Under the various proposals now on the table, the IRS would become the main agency for determining who has an "acceptable" health insurance plan; for finding and punishing those who don't have such a plan; for subsidizing individual health insurance costs through the issuance of a tax credits; and for enforcing the rules on those who attempt to opt out, abuse, or game the system. A substantial portion of H.R. 3200, the House health care bill, is devoted to amending the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 in order to give the IRS the authority to perform these new duties.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: irs
The unitended consequences are chilling enough to trash this abomination of Govt Health Care RIGHT NOW.
1 posted on 09/03/2009 12:54:08 PM PDT by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas

The people of this country have been attempting to scale down the IRS for years. In just six months, Obama will attempt to make them the largest controller of the people in our history. Control people!


2 posted on 09/03/2009 1:00:28 PM PDT by RC2
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To: bestintxas; Taxman; Principled; EternalVigilance; phil_will1; kevkrom; Bigun; PeteB570; FBD; ...
The IRS will still be going strong even when socialist health care is defeated. It doesn't address the need to eliminate the IRS. The Fair Tax Act(HR25/S296)directly addresses this problem by replacing all federal income taxes with a national sales tax and abolishing the IRS. Fair Tax ping!


3 posted on 09/03/2009 1:00:42 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: bestintxas
...if anyone doubts what a government worker is capable of doing, they need not look further then what happen to Joe the Plumber.
4 posted on 09/03/2009 1:04:23 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Man50D

I have been trying to tell people that, and have posted about it, if you read that stupid “Health” law, all the enforcement is by the IRS,,,,,1/4 of those pages are about Health, the rest of it is expanded IRS function, and it wont be limited to the Health bill. That bill turns the IRS into Obamas Gestapo.


5 posted on 09/03/2009 1:04:57 PM PDT by Concho (Tell all parents to keep their children home from school on Sept 8.)
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To: Man50D

Abolish the IRS for sure. Look how Rangel gets a free pass. This should be fodder for elimination right there—but the elected royals can’t change anything without a near revolution—that is unless it benefits them.


6 posted on 09/03/2009 1:06:24 PM PDT by Achilles Heel
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To: bestintxas
Backers of the Democratic bills are betting that the handouts involved — giving people money to buy health insurance — will outweigh concerns about privacy and coercive government.

How does that saying go? Any government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take away everything you have.

7 posted on 09/03/2009 1:06:26 PM PDT by fullchroma (Obama: GET OUT OF MY DOCTOR'S OFFICE!)
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To: Man50D

What’s the plan for property taxes?


8 posted on 09/03/2009 1:12:09 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: bestintxas
They are putting the IRS in charge of both death and taxes.
9 posted on 09/03/2009 1:13:20 PM PDT by jmcenanly
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To: familyop
What’s the plan for property taxes?

The Fair Tax only pertains to federal income taxes.
10 posted on 09/03/2009 1:13:47 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: bestintxas

I make so little money, that I am exempt from filing a tax return.

I am not alone in this.

Many retirees, living on small Social Security income and not taking any kind of Government handout-food stamps-section 8 housing- whatever- are in the same group as I.

Will this kind of crap in the House bill 3200 force every one of us to file a tax return?

I would guess that would add at least 7 million tax returns to the system—perhaps as many as 30 million.


11 posted on 09/03/2009 1:53:53 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: bestintxas
The unitended consequences are chilling enough to trash this abomination of Govt Health Care RIGHT NOW.

I heartily concur!

I also do not believer there are any unintended consequences! I happen to think these people know EXACTLY what they are doing and why!

They want to be able to pronounce the failure of capitalism and proclaim themselves in charge of the NEW America in perpetuity!

12 posted on 09/04/2009 2:14:45 AM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Man50D
There will be no end to this kind of stuff ever until the American people DEMAND an end to the communist inspired income tax system we currently suffer and the simplest and surest way to do that is already on the table in the form of HR25, the Fairtax bill!
13 posted on 09/04/2009 2:22:48 AM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: bestintxas

Just remember, the IRS is barred from sharing information with ICE to identify illegal immigrants, but can share it will and sundry to make sure you are properly penalized for your health care “choices”


14 posted on 09/04/2009 6:42:12 AM PDT by bt_dooftlook (John Adams: Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate)
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