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New Data Alter Old Positions On Immigrants
IBD Editorials ^ | September 2, 2009 | MICHAEL BARONE

Posted on 09/02/2009 6:53:46 PM PDT by Kaslin

Before leaving for his vacation on Martha's Vineyard, Barack Obama said the next big item on his legislative agenda — well, after health care and cap-and-trade and maybe labor's bill to effectively abolish secret ballots in union elections — was immigration reform.

What he has in mind, apparently, is something like the comprehensive immigration bills that foundered in the House in 2006 and in the Senate in 2007. These featured guest-worker and enforcement provisions, as well as a path to legalization.

The prospects for such legislation still seem iffy. Immigration bills have typically needed bipartisan support to pass, and the Republicans who took the lead on the Senate bills in 2006 and 2007 aren't interested in doing so again. And some Democratic congressional leaders are wary of a bill that many members' constituents oppose.

But there's another reason why Congress and the administration would be unwise to revive the 2006-07 legislation. The facts on the ground have changed. The surge of illegal immigrants into the U.S., which seemed to be unrelenting for most of the last two decades, seems to be over, at least temporarily, and there's a chance it may never resume.

The facts are in some dispute, as is inevitably the case, since available statistics are subject to error. The Pew Hispanic Center reported in July that the flow of immigrants from Mexico — by far the leading source of illegals — has declined sharply since mid-decade and that from spring 2008 to spring 2009 only 175,000 Mexicans entered the United States, only about one-quarter as many as in 2004-05.

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1 posted on 09/02/2009 6:53:46 PM PDT by Kaslin
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2 posted on 09/02/2009 6:54:46 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Obama is trying to replace them with the Musliims.


3 posted on 09/02/2009 7:00:57 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Kaslin

If you read the whole article, there is one curious omission.

He doesn’t say that there are no longer any ‘jobs that Americans won’t take’. The unemployed are ready, willing, and able to accept all open positions.


4 posted on 09/02/2009 7:05:14 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: Kaslin

No matter what anyone tells you, immigration “reform” is the MOST IMPORTANT item in Obama’s agenda. If he can suddenly flood the system with 40M+ instant citizens (illegals + their families) then the Dems need never endure another town hall meeting again. They will have stacked the deck and will be able to implement their agenda with zero fear of voter retribution.


5 posted on 09/02/2009 7:08:50 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Kaslin

I’d love to see a Politician “Reform” Bill that would require each Representative and Senator to come home to their states at least once a week, bend over in front of the state capitol and allow each voter to give them one good swift kick in the ass.


6 posted on 09/02/2009 7:09:24 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my country?)
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To: Kaslin

Healthcare reform is all about the public option.
Immigration reform is all about amnesty.


7 posted on 09/02/2009 7:10:26 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: Kaslin

Oh, crap. I’ll say it anyway.

No solution except a second revolution.

The desire and willingness to destroy our country has been blatantly obvious since last summer. Letting illegal foreigners help with the destruction makes perfect sense if that is your goal.

Go ahead, report me; flag@whitehouse.gov


8 posted on 09/02/2009 7:17:46 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (A society that doesn't protect Jim Thompson's children doesn't deserve to survive.)
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To: Kaslin

The guy really never learns. He is so driven by ideology and ambition that he has no clue about how to get anything done. This is exactly what I hoped for when he was elected. Obama naively heads for every traditional political dying ground: health care, raising taxes on the middle class (cap’n trade), killing Medicare, amnesty for illegals. What next? “Reforming” Social Security. He is like a moth to the flame. Thank God he’s incompetent.


9 posted on 09/02/2009 7:20:44 PM PDT by ElectronVolt
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To: Kaslin

“only 175,000 Mexicans entered the United States, only about one-quarter as many as in 2004-05.”

That’s 175,000 too many, kick them and every one that preceded them out now!!

Include obama as an illegal alien from Kenya!


10 posted on 09/02/2009 7:22:58 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: umgud

Did you know:

That the words race car spelled backward still spells race car.

That eat is the only word that if you take the 1st letter and move it to the last, it spells its past tense, ate.

And have you noticed that if you rearrange the letters in "illegal immigrants", and add just a few more letters, it spells out: "Go home you free-loading, benefit grabbing, kid-producing, violent, non-English speaking assholes and take those other hairy-faced, sandal wearing, bomb making, goat loving, raggedy ass bastards with you."

How weird is that?


11 posted on 09/02/2009 7:23:50 PM PDT by B-Cause (It's not what you gather, but what you scatter that tells what kind of life you have lived.)
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To: Kaslin

Right. The DemoCRATS policies will make us less financially viable than Cuba or Venezuela then our illegal immigrant problems will be solved!


12 posted on 09/02/2009 7:24:36 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: B-Cause

Life is strange.


13 posted on 09/02/2009 8:22:43 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Health Care Reform has met the DEATH Panel.)
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To: Kaslin

The article is misleading and represents the corporate view of immigration.


14 posted on 09/02/2009 8:32:52 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Kaslin

There’s not many constructions jobs to lo-balls for.


15 posted on 09/02/2009 9:10:24 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Have no fear "President Government" is here)
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To: Kaslin
Cue the music "we did before and we can do it again"

Then on June 17, 1954, what was called "Operation Wetback" began. Because political resistance was lower in California and Arizona, the roundup of aliens began there. Some 750 agents swept northward through agricultural areas with a goal of 1,000 apprehensions a day. By the end of July, over 50,000 aliens were caught in the two states. Another 488,000, fearing arrest, had fled the country.

By mid-July, the crackdown extended northward into Utah, Nevada, and Idaho, and eastward to Texas.

By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and an estimated 500,000 to 700,000 illegals had left the Lone Star State voluntarily

Source - http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html)

And
The Deportation Act of 1929

The Mexican Repatriation was an voluntary and involuntary migration mainly taking place between 1929 and 1937, when an estimated 400-500,000 Mexicans left the US due to high unemployment, fear of deportation, encouragement by welfare agencies and the Mexican government. During the Great Depression, Mexicans and Mexican Americans were viewed as usurpers of American jobs and a burden on social services such as relief aid[citation needed]. The Immigration and Naturalization Service targeted Mexicans because of "the proximity of the Mexican border, the physical distinctiveness of mestizos, and easily identifiable barrios."[1]

These actions were authorized by President Herbert Hoover and targeted areas with large Hispanic populations, mostly in California, Texas, Colorado, Illinois and Michigan. Although President Franklin Roosevelt ended federal support for the program when he took office, many state and local governments continued with their efforts.

Of couse, YMMV, but history does prove to be interesting.

16 posted on 09/02/2009 9:42:35 PM PDT by ASOC (Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui)
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To: Kaslin

“The Center for Immigration Studies...estimated that the number of illegals in the U.S. dropped from 12.5 million in summer 2007 to 10.8 million in spring 2008 — a decline of 14%.”

This is just propaganda to try to confuse the average American. The new “big lie” is that Illegal immigration has declined, it is no longer a problem, everything is solved. There are still large numbers of illegal immigrants coming to this country and not paying taxes and burdening the social services in this country. Many of them belong to gangs, deal drugs and commit crimes. The problem hasn’t gone away, the politicians and the MSM are just lying about it.


17 posted on 09/02/2009 11:31:51 PM PDT by detective
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