Thanks, Fred Nerks. You find the most interesting stuff! [Don’t cry. Crying makes wrinkles.]
~ Check this out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki?title=Talk:Ann_Dunham
Lots of good stuff here. Fred always finds such good information! Nice job.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki?title=Talk:Ann_Dunham
Oh, my. They're driving themselves nuts trying to make sense of things.
I wonder if someone on BO's team is monitoring this wiki and will step in when things get too "warm."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki?title=Talk:Ann_Dunham
That link makes for fascinating reading for several reasons.
While purportedly highlighting the strength of Wikipedia due to corrections and editings, there certainly are a lot of judgment calls in the article.
See section on heritage for example.
Or on “Article contradicts itself regarding marriage to Obama Sr.”
Or of course on:
“Barack Obama born in Honolulu: no dispute”
It would be different if they were collectively pouring over stone documents in hieroglyphic or Demotic without having a Rosetta Stone and discussing interpretations.
But no, what we have here is a discussion on a woman, born in the 20th century, who died 14 years ago, who happens to be the mother of a President born in the the latter half of the 20th century century.
Dozens of people even on this predominantly leftist leaning site cannot agree on basic facts.
Almost everything about her is in fluid discussion. About the only thing you could assume for sure is that she was a female.
It is unfortunate that Wikipedia is often so quickly accepted as the arbiter of truth.
Potential disruptors and sockpuppets and nonBorgs are ferreted out. (Call in the Viking Kitties)
These people have a lot of time on their hands.
All in all, a fascinating glimpse into the mind of the ‘droid.
Thanks for the link, Fred and the ping, LucyT.
Further, as we posted on the original Long Thread, the BOAC connection she would have been on through Glaskow and Vancouver BC would have put her on Mercer Island on August 6th. So it isn't surprising that is where you find her.
How long did she stay? What did she do next? My own hypothesis is that she proceeded within a day or so to Honolulu because she, and/or her mother, intended to make a birth filing in Hawaii. And we find a filing on August 8. We don't yet know what was filed but we may well yet find out.
I don't see much new or news in Corsi's story on that point.
His point about the end of summer quarter on August 18 is a response to my earlier analysis--he is correct; I am wrong. I have used August 11 as the end of summer quarter because I took my last undergraduate final on the 10th because the professor was moving to another college. The rest of my classes were grad school classes for which the end grade was a paper. I took my other final quarter exams at the end of the first half of summer quarter.
The fact, if it is a fact, that she was registered for summer classes on Saturday, August 19, doesn't demonstrate that she was in Seattle to do so and I think she was not--my hypothesis is that she continued on to Hawaii on the 7th.
"The University of Washington's 1961 summer schedule coincides with Dunham's college grade transcript, which indicates she began taking extension courses at the university Aug. 19, 1961."
Really Joe? Where does it say that?
It doesn't.
He is relying on the two notes in paren's below the courses. The second date is clearly in exam week for the quarter in which the class was credited. In the case of Winter Quarter, the first date, 12/27 is also clearly before classes started on January 2. As the first date for Fall quarter, 9/25 is long after the first date for the fall quarter class shown as 8/19.
8/19 was a Saturday. The campus was shut down for vacation. She might well have mailed in a registration for Fall Quarter that date but she was not in class. Nothing in the rest of the article supports that view either.