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To: El Gato

How about born in Canada. Stanley Ann could have driven back and forth (driven by a friend, most likely) between Canada and Seattle area, preparing for what she would do after Barry was born. I don’t think her mother or father wanted her showing in Hawaii without a husband, so it may have been a faux marriage claim to Barak sr. and nothing more done about it until she came back to Hawaii with little Barry and obtained a divorce from Barak sr for purposes of wealfare roles, etc. She certainly knew how to lie boldly, applying for and receiving a divorce claiming she had lived with Barak sr when she was in Washington State all that time. I’m betting Madelyn applied for and received the CoLB for her grandchild with little difficulty in Hawaii of that time. The marriage ploy may not have even started until 1962 or 1963 when Stanley anticipated returning to Hawaii. The first registry in Hawaii may not have occurred until ‘62 or ‘63.


91 posted on 09/01/2009 10:29:48 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I agree with all of that.


100 posted on 09/01/2009 10:52:45 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: MHGinTN
How about born in Canada.

Good. That opens the door. It could have been anywhere.

Stanley Ann could have driven back and forth (driven by a friend, most likely) between Canada and Seattle area, preparing for what she would do after Barry was born.

Now let's allow here for the slip Susan Blake made, about receiving a post-card from a ship, in February 1961.

I don’t think her mother or father wanted her showing in Hawaii without a husband, so it may have been a faux marriage claim to Barak sr.

Remembering that no one besides Neil Abercrombie saw the happy couple together in Hawaii, a faux marriage to cover for the true -hidden- paternity is very likely.

and nothing more done about it until she came back to Hawaii with little Barry and obtained a divorce from Barak sr for purposes of wealfare roles, etc.

she couldn't come back to Hawaii before obama sr left the island - because then they would have been expected to live together! A sham marriage in name is one one thing, having to share premises and act like husband wife is another! IMO they were STRANGERS!

She certainly knew how to lie boldly, applying for and receiving a divorce claiming she had lived with Barak sr when she was in Washington State all that time.

probably applied for the divorce with a sham certificate of marriage and a forged kenyan birth certificate so that she could get custody!

I’m betting Madelyn applied for and received the CoLB for her grandchild with little difficulty in Hawaii of that time. The marriage ploy may not have even started until 1962 or 1963 when Stanley anticipated returning to Hawaii. The first registry in Hawaii may not have occurred until ‘62 or ‘63.

YOU GOT IT!

105 posted on 09/01/2009 11:17:16 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: MHGinTN
I’m betting Madelyn applied for and received the CoLB for her grandchild with little difficulty in Hawaii of that time

I imagine it would have been a Certificate of live birth, but for a "home birth". The CoLB (Certification) is nothing more than an abstract of the information, some of it, included on the the original Certificate (be it of Live Birth, Hawaiian Birth, or delayed birth)

107 posted on 09/01/2009 11:43:59 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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