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Southern California fire threatens historic Mount Wilson Observatory
The Scientific American ^ | Sept. 1, 2009 | John Matson

Posted on 09/01/2009 12:54:39 PM PDT by La Enchiladita

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To: ArmstedFragg

Flames are still a ways from the towers.


61 posted on 09/01/2009 2:44:18 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: mad_as_he$$

True story. And don’t you think that with a state having the tax base of California, enduring this level of annual devastation from fires, we couldn’t muscle up some money? Boggles my mind.


62 posted on 09/01/2009 2:45:29 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: norton

It was very unusual the past 4-5 days to have blue sky overhead and see the mushroom cloud of smoke to the NNE.

Very unlike the situation last year, Nov. 15-16, when Santa Ana blew smoke and ash over L.A. all the way to the coast.


63 posted on 09/01/2009 2:46:10 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: SZonian

The “fire truther,” as I call him, doesn’t miss a thread does he? But as you say, misses the point entirely.


64 posted on 09/01/2009 2:47:37 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: SZonian

I’m well aware that California is broke NOW. But for the past several decades, we had the largest tax base in the United States. Nothing was done then either.

Regarding the ‘updrafts’ and ‘turbulence’ and all that, each situation would call for whatever works best. But truthfully, most of these fires would be out before they ever get to the point of creating any significant ‘weather’ of their own. And that’s the point. You get them early, they never get a chance to get to this level.


65 posted on 09/01/2009 2:48:52 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: BurbankKarl

What wonderful news! :)


66 posted on 09/01/2009 3:09:06 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE CENTRAL AIR CONDITIONING!)
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To: La Enchiladita

Burnouts or backfires (same thing) is pretty much one of the big keys to fighting a wildland fire. Make a firebreak, remove the fuel between the break and the fire, and when the fire gets to the burned out area with little or no fuel, it dies down. This is particularly true when you have a hot fire that’s too aggressive to do more direct attack methods.


67 posted on 09/01/2009 3:16:03 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Incompetence mixed with bad ideology = change for the worst.)
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To: La Enchiladita
From the blog you linked to:
Note: The Mount Wilson webserver has gone down, most likely due to a backfire infiltration of a pull box containing telephone lines that bring us our T1 internet service. The will be no more updates from the Towercam, the last one being upoaded at 13:49:06.

The last updated still of the video is HERE.

All news updates have now been moved to a different server and are posted here.

KTLA has set up a feed on their site and is providing hosting to videos.
68 posted on 09/01/2009 3:16:53 PM PDT by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
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To: mad_as_he$$

You have a lot fewer airports that can host them, they don’t always work in the mountains as well because they are too big, and can’t always get close enough. There are places they are wonderful, but they are just one tool in a toolbox of a lot of tools.


69 posted on 09/01/2009 3:19:32 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Incompetence mixed with bad ideology = change for the worst.)
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To: La Enchiladita
Yeah, sure.
70 posted on 09/01/2009 3:24:37 PM PDT by Osage Orange (A community organizer cannot bitch when communities organize..... - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: NormsRevenge
Spectacular Gallery of the fire HERE on KTLA's site
71 posted on 09/01/2009 3:26:39 PM PDT by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
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To: La Enchiladita

BTW, you sound like a politician......................


72 posted on 09/01/2009 3:27:27 PM PDT by Osage Orange (A community organizer cannot bitch when communities organize..... - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: papasmurf

Thanks! Good pics!


73 posted on 09/01/2009 3:29:30 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: La Enchiladita

I hear on KFI radio that they reporting right now


74 posted on 09/01/2009 3:38:01 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: GonzoGOP; monkapotamus; All

HMM let Photoshopping Freepers handle this


75 posted on 09/01/2009 3:40:02 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: SierraWasp
I see there is a fire near Auburn. Any report?

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76 posted on 09/01/2009 3:42:03 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: NormsRevenge; La Enchiladita
747 air tanker makes first drop on live fire in continental US

Video and story at the link.



77 posted on 09/01/2009 3:48:37 PM PDT by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
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To: NormsRevenge; lainie; BurbankKarl; pollywog; La Enchiladita; SevenofNine; leilani
Weather Forecast:

SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN DIEGO CA
334 PM PDT TUE SEP 1 2009

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CONTINUED HOT DAYS INLAND THROUGH THURSDAY...

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COOLING IS FORECAST LATE IN THE WEEK AS A LOW PRESSURE TROUGH APPROACHES FROM THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST. THE COOLING WILL CONTINUE OVER THE LABOR DAY WEEKEND WHEN HIGH TEMPERATURES SHOULD BE CLOSE TO...OR SLIGHTLY BELOW SEASONAL AVERAGES.

78 posted on 09/01/2009 3:51:07 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: All
And we have this:

Jimena Won't Put the Flames Out

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The massive wildfire burning in Southern California will be put out when it runs out of fuel, firefighters gain the upper hand or both of these factors combine forces.

Powerful Hurricane Jimena will provide no assistance, whatsoever. The hurricane's heaviest rain will fall across the southern and central Baja as well as along a portion of the coastline of western Mexico. These locations can expect localized severe flooding.

Some of that tropical moisture would go a long way in helping to extinguish the Southern California blaze, but it can't get there. The flow is simply not aligned properly.


79 posted on 09/01/2009 3:54:59 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: norton

Yeah, we started getting smoke reports down in San Diego County about three this morning. I took a look at the Wilson weather station and it was showing northeast wind at six. We’re actually pretty lucky to be getting this burn-off prior to Santa Ana.


80 posted on 09/01/2009 3:55:47 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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