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To: TChris
Lol...now you’ve become amusing.

Using your definition, Obama’s words are his deeds. Can you reconcile Obama’s words and the subsequent actions? Can you do this in all cases without using the word lie?

If words are deeds then are deeds words? If deeds are not words then what are they? I am curious if deeds even exist in your world.

I can only imagine what manner of deeds you would find befitting your own words.

I will end my side of this by declaring my position that deeds are more important than words remain and I disagree with your position that words are deeds.

10 posted on 09/02/2009 8:13:31 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: MosesKnows
Using your definition, Obama’s words are his deeds. Can you reconcile Obama’s words and the subsequent actions?

Why? Reconciliation of them has nothing to do with what they are. Sure they can be contradictory, dishonest, deceptive, dangerous and damaging. So what? Both words and deeds can be those things.

Can you do this in all cases without using the word lie?

Why? Is "not using the word lie" some sort of requirement for this debate?

What's your point?

If words are deeds then are deeds words?

No.

If deeds are not words then what are they? I am curious if deeds even exist in your world.

Umm... Deeds.

Why is this so difficult for you?

Deeds are actions. Deeds are things you DO. Words are a subset of that category.

It's like saying that squares are shapes, but not all shapes are squares. Words are deeds, but not all deeds are words. Get it?

Of all the things one can DO, words (spoken, written, etc.) are among those things. You speak words; you have DONE something, you have spoken. You write words; you have DONE something, you have written.

My point is that it's silly to separate "words" and "deeds" because one is a subset of the other. One can say that words are INADEQUATE, in many cases. One can say that words are dishonest, contradictory to other actions, etc.. All of that can be true and still not deny the basic nature of words and deeds.

"Judge a man by his deeds and not his words?" Absurd. It's like saying "Judge a man by his clothes and not his pants."

Words are deeds, and many HUGE things have been brought to pass in this world by the words of an individual.

The teachings of Jesus Christ are WORDS. The speeches, writings and military orders of Adolph Hitler were WORDS. The speeches of Ronald Reagan were WORDS. Shall we ignore those words when measuring those men?

11 posted on 09/02/2009 8:32:19 AM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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