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UK: [PM] Brown plans to take cash from the poorest families
The Times ^ | 8/28/2009 | Sam Coates

Posted on 08/31/2009 11:11:52 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

Gordon Brown is facing a Labour revolt over plans to cut the benefits of the poorest families by up to £15 a week, The Times can reveal.

Proposals to be implemented next April, a month before a general election, could mean some people losing a fifth of their income. The move, which has provoked anger among Labour backbenchers, was compared last night with the fiasco over the abolition of the 10p rate of income tax. At the moment 300,000 people on low incomes are allowed to keep up to £780 a year of their housing allowance if they find accommodation that costs less than the maximum benefit.

The Treasury says that the policy costs too much and that the ability to pocket any surplus should be scrapped from April 1. The change would take place three months after the rate of VAT is increased to 17.5 per cent.

Crisis, the housing charity, said that it could mean that people on £65-a-week jobseeker’s allowance losing 20 per cent of their income.

Frank Field, the former Labour welfare minister who led the revolt over the abolition of the 10p rate of income tax, said that he would try to stop the measure being pushed through Parliament.

Karen Buck, a Labour MP who campaigns on housing, said: “We should not under any circumstances be taking money from the poorest and making them choose between reasonable housing bills and meeting day-to-day expenses. I don’t know how many that applies to. Either way, either the savings aren’t there or poor people will suffer.”

The reform was introduced to give tenants greater control over their housing arrangements by paying the rent themselves, and the option to trade quality for extra cash.

The Government believes that abolishing the policy will save £160 million, but Labour

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: britain; britishtaxes; gordonbrown; greatbritain; socialism; taxes; tvpolice; unitedkingdom
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1 posted on 08/31/2009 11:11:52 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

Ah, socialism, where reducing the net amount of freebies constitutes taking money from the recipients.


2 posted on 08/31/2009 11:15:47 PM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Social Security is going to be effectively cut. MediCare premiums will rise as MediCare cuts payments for treatment, apparently as much as 44% for some things. Meanwhile we also have a govt targeted oldsters for denial of treatment under ObamaCare.

hhhmmmm


3 posted on 08/31/2009 11:16:37 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: bruinbirdman
The Treasury says that the policy costs too much and that the ability to pocket any surplus should be scrapped from April 1. The change would take place three months after the rate of VAT is increased to 17.5 per cent.

Thats a double whammy

4 posted on 08/31/2009 11:17:53 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: bruinbirdman

Nothing new. In the United Kingdom, citizens must pay a licence if they own a television set.A color television licence is around $192 USD and a black and white TV licence costsaround $64 USD.


5 posted on 08/31/2009 11:18:20 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: Terpfen

That’s what I was thinking. How are you taking something from someone by not giving it to them? That’s weird. No matter how hard the liberal ‘RATS try, I’m never going to make a good commie.


6 posted on 08/31/2009 11:25:20 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my country?)
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To: bruinbirdman

What a coincidence, that’s exactly what the RATS plan to do. If 1st 8350 is taxed at 15%, instead of 10%, it will cost everyone $417 more INCLUDING THE LOWER INCOMES. Nothing is being said about this tho.


7 posted on 08/31/2009 11:26:33 PM PDT by Waco (OK Libs, stop emiting)
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The politicians don’t just want your money.
They want your soul.
They want you to be worn down by taxes until
you are dependent and helpless.
When you subsidize poverty and failure, you
get more of both.

James Dale Davidson, National Taxpayers Union


8 posted on 08/31/2009 11:28:28 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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I wasn’t aware Obama-ism hit other countries.


9 posted on 08/31/2009 11:30:38 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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Brown plans to take cash from the poorest families

LMAO!!!
Only in a socialist toilet like Great Britain can a newspaper shamelessly proclaim in a headline that doling out a little less free money to bums and parasites is "taking cash" from them.

Oh, wait. America's Democrat newspapers - - the New York Times, et al - - do the same thing.

10 posted on 08/31/2009 11:40:19 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: bruinbirdman

What can we expect? They need more money for all the Muslim immigrants who are going to come their and live for free as they plot to takeover.


11 posted on 08/31/2009 11:46:31 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: bruinbirdman
Cut, cut, and cut some more.

A lesson that can be learned world wide.

12 posted on 09/01/2009 12:07:53 AM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: Terpfen

Of course it does. What you are given as a help soon becomes a right, and rights must never be infringed, must they?


13 posted on 09/01/2009 12:22:08 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: sonofstrangelove

Thats to finance the great and good BBC. $192 a year....thats $16 a month or just over 50 cents a day.

Compares very well with satellite television, or with the excessive (if hidden) costs of commercial TV.


14 posted on 09/01/2009 12:25:04 AM PDT by Vanders9
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This is the licensce you must have to watch television in Britain
15 posted on 09/01/2009 1:10:40 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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With such sophisticated television-hunters on the prowl in England, the BBC has found that most people pay. As of March 2002, 23.7 million licenses had been established.


16 posted on 09/01/2009 1:11:23 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: bruinbirdman

That has got to be the most misleading and inaccurate headline ever.


17 posted on 09/01/2009 1:16:21 AM PDT by JillValentine (Obama wants to turn the United States into Zimbabwe.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Anh, what are they complaining about. Their healthcare is ‘free’.


18 posted on 09/01/2009 4:49:48 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Interesting, thanks for this.

So the next time I get in a debate with a UK libtard, and they tell me that we are unsophisticated because their healthcare is ‘free’, I’ll remind them that they might get their turn your head and cough exam for ‘free’, but I can bring a TV in my house for free.


19 posted on 09/01/2009 4:51:34 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Yes I know. I have two.


20 posted on 09/01/2009 7:11:02 AM PDT by Vanders9
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