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Why ATF folded in Friesen case(BATFE Gets The Boot!)
Examiner.com ^ | 08/30/09 | David Codrea

Posted on 08/30/2009 9:16:05 AM PDT by Copernicus

Attorney David T. Hardy sums it up nicely:

The courtroom equivalent of "the dog ate my homework. Five times."...

The prosecutor is trying to dodge and weave on why certain important documents were not disclosed to the defense, despite a court order, and neither the judge nor the defense attorney is giving him an inch of slack.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; batfe; bootthebatfe; ccw; codrea; donttreadonme; jackbootedthugs; jbt; lping; rkba
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Finally, someone nailed those dangerous, reckless, incompetent boobs.

Best regards to all,

1 posted on 08/30/2009 9:16:05 AM PDT by Copernicus
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To: marktwain; Joe Brower
Ping to your attention.
2 posted on 08/30/2009 9:17:23 AM PDT by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Copernicus
One Freeper has as their tag line.
The ATF should be a local store or something of this ilk.
3 posted on 08/30/2009 9:18:47 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: Copernicus

Amen!


4 posted on 08/30/2009 9:19:40 AM PDT by GWConservative (insurance medical health care)
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To: Copernicus

This is quite interesting. What is it with the ATF?


5 posted on 08/30/2009 9:19:55 AM PDT by Loud Mime (barastikas = Obama's logos // If it is identified by race, it's racist)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives should be the name of a one stop party store not a gubmint agency.


6 posted on 08/30/2009 9:32:29 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: Loud Mime
A lot of FedGov prosecutors have been nailed with misconduct - might not have been in the news in the past, but really seems to have gotten out of hand in so many ways.
7 posted on 08/30/2009 9:35:13 AM PDT by ASOC (Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui)
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To: Copernicus
Fix the link:
8 posted on 08/30/2009 9:38:17 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: org.whodat
Works for me and I have a tin lizzie for a computer.

Try this: http://www.examiner.com/x-1417-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2009m8d30-Why-ATF-folded-in-Friesen-case

9 posted on 08/30/2009 9:44:27 AM PDT by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Eagles6
When I was a child it was named BAT, and was only responsible for Booze and Taxes. Then of course they got greedy, and they added firearms to their agenda(after JFK was shot), now they have explosives in their also. Couple more decades and no telling how many letters they can add to their name.

This unit needs to be abolished, especially the firearms and explosives units.

10 posted on 08/30/2009 9:47:16 AM PDT by calex59
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To: ASOC
If you'll notice, the defendant in this case was STILL forced to plead.

People don't understand how far the government has gotten out of control. They basically have a blank checkbook and an endless "Book of Criminal Offenses" with which to pursue their victims.

You are usually forced to plead, and part of the plea deal is giving up some of your Rights as a free man. "Probation" is something the Founders wouldn't have recognized, nor a concept they would have understood. Free men don't live under the "supervision" of the State after they've paid for their "crime".

Yet, that's the system we have now.

11 posted on 08/30/2009 9:48:23 AM PDT by an amused spectator (The money vampires fear garlands of lead & brass)
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To: calex59

I agree.


12 posted on 08/30/2009 9:50:53 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: an amused spectator

Amen.


13 posted on 08/30/2009 9:57:38 AM PDT by dtrpscout (A bad dog is better than most good people.)
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To: Copernicus

Did a BATF agent perjure himself on the witness stand? If so, what will be the ramifications?


14 posted on 08/30/2009 10:11:49 AM PDT by OldCorps
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To: Copernicus

I might be wrong, but David Hardy was the attorney who defended the Branch Davidians after the Waco debacle.


15 posted on 08/30/2009 10:14:02 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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Maybe I’m just dense but I don’t see how this is a win for our side.

The court could have sentenced him to a year in prison. See question 12B on form 4473. It means Friesen is now a prohibited person, the way I read it.


16 posted on 08/30/2009 10:49:00 AM PDT by white17x
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To: Copernicus

Wow, that was one poorly written article. A paragraph explaining the whole background would have helped.


17 posted on 08/30/2009 11:27:04 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus
Wow, that was one poorly written article

Glad I'm not the only one to think that.

I kept going waiting to find out just what the heck he was talking about. It sounded very important, but he never really said why...

18 posted on 08/30/2009 12:04:23 PM PDT by kAcknor ("A pistol! Are you expecting trouble sir?" "No ma'am, were I expecting trouble I'd have a rifle.")
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To: Copernicus

The probation is a loss. He shouldn’t have accepted that as a condition of dropping the other charges when the BATFags didn’t have a leg to stand on.

The NFA needs to be abolished, as does the NICS system and all provisions of GCA ‘68. There should be no laws restricting the purchase, possession, or carrying of firearms by any non-incarcerated person.


19 posted on 08/30/2009 12:13:55 PM PDT by Dayman (My 1919a4 is named Charlotte. When I light her up she has the voice of an angel.)
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To: Dayman

Agreed. Sounds though like he found the chink in the armor. I think the gun groups and anyone under prosecution by the ATFE needs to zero in and exploit it.


20 posted on 08/30/2009 5:29:15 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Resident Obama: Not a President, not a Citizen, living here but from somewhere else...)
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