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To: Wild Irish Rogue
"What expertise does Dr Fukino have to declare anyone a natural born citizen ?"

None. She added an unfounded and gratuitous sentence to her statement. But, that doesn't negate the other relative facts she publicly testified for and about.

Again, I was answering a hypothetical about what would happen if the case is heard on the merits. Presuming that Obama has his hands on a physical copy of this Hawaiian issued Certification of Live Birth, and this Dr Fukino would affirm what's she's already stated either through an affidavit or sworn personal testimony, that alone would be a very high mountain for a plaintiff to overcome.

203 posted on 08/29/2009 9:47:43 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: OldDeckHand

“Presuming that Obama has his hands on a physical copy of this Hawaiian issued Certification of Live Birth, and this Dr Fukino would affirm what’s she’s already stated either through an affidavit or sworn personal testimony, that alone would be a very high mountain for a plaintiff to overcome.”


Agreed. Under Federal Rules of Evidence 901 and 902, IF he presented an “original” certified/stamped copy of the COLB and IF Fukino, or someone else at the DOH responsible for records filed an affidavit stating that that document was generated under standard DOH procedures, that would be a very high mountain - as in Everest-like mountain - to overcome.


212 posted on 08/29/2009 9:58:16 AM PDT by Sibre Fan
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To: OldDeckHand

“What expertise does Dr Fukino have to declare anyone a natural born citizen ?”

” None. ..... But, that doesn’t negate the other relative facts she publicly testified for and about.”

I don’t believe she has publicly testified , just issued two press releases from her office.
And we don’t know , considering her non legal background, whether those were actually her words
or she lent her name to someone else’s opinion.
Hasn’t she in effect, made herself an expert witness on the Constitutional matter of natural born citizen ?
And in doing so, shouldn’t her background and qualifications to make such a judgement be examined ?
I’m not a lawyer, but, I have testified on occasions as an expert witness,
sometimes for the defense and sometimes for the plaintiff.
And my bona fides to declare myself an expert witness were presented and examined in great detail by both sides during the trials.
I don’t understand why Dr Fukino would get a pass.
And would not have to testify about her bona fides or cite the evidence and documents she used to support her conclusion.

” Presuming that Obama has his hands on a physical copy of this Hawaiian issued Certification of Live Birth,..”

We don’t know if he has ever had his hands on his COLB.
But, we do know that at one time in his life, according to Obama himself,
he had his hands on his actual birth certificate.
Page 26 “ Dreams From My Father “


255 posted on 08/29/2009 11:46:25 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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