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To: Sudetenland
I know people with as much sobriety as Ebert who still have a problem with the whole God concept. They have as good a sobriety as anyone I have ever met in the program.

YOu cannot judge another person's program. I personally don't see how you do it without a firm belief in God, but my experience is that some do it quite well. Growth in a spiritual life does not automatically translate to a stronger belief in God...again in my experience with others I know.

You are quite right.

One of the dangers of this type of anonymity break is that it does lead to confusion about what the program is and what it isn't. We hear of someone and we think we know them, or we think that if we disagree with them it's because of their program. But we don't really know much of anything beyond our own experience.

I am far more intrigued by the recovery/conservative line of discussion. Knowing what I now know about addiction, I can't imagine that anyone in recovery cannot recognize the similarities between the Democratic Party and drug dealers.

They make promises of easing their pain, all the while making the pain last longer. They create a dependency that only they can fill. And if you try another method, they turn on you like your a leper.

54 posted on 08/28/2009 2:27:30 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment
"...I can't imagine that anyone in recovery cannot recognize the similarities between the Democratic Party and drug dealers.

They make promises of easing their pain, all the while making the pain last longer. They create a dependency that only they can fill. And if you try another method, they turn on you like your a leper."
I mentioned this strange conundrum in my comment #32. Lately I have taken to asking them about that and mostly they just want to change the subject. Do tell. :)
85 posted on 08/28/2009 3:10:52 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Without God there is no freedom, for what rights man can give, he can take away.)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Well, you should see how hostile people are to Christians in there. Look, there are some sick, sick people at AA meetings. I’ve never met one that wasn’t horribly, deeply damaged. I’ve thought some of them weren’t - sponsors, ones with significant sobriety, but when I got to know them they were some scr-ew-ed up people.

But... what does that say about meeee?


92 posted on 08/28/2009 3:17:42 PM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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