Obama Targets Medicare Advantage (Seniors getting screwed)

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I didn’t mention gasoline prick!

As far as gas, we haven’t seen fas as low as $2.50 for over 2 years and it’s over $3 now.

Food is up over 20% and so is natural gas on our bills.

The 2 thingsa that seinors need aren’t part of the cost of living apparently only things that nobody needs make up the list.

Woah!!! Outstanding!!!

I didn’t mention gasoline prick!

No, you didn't (and be careful whom you are calling a prick!)You mentioned two items that (you claimed) were up 20% (they weren't) and failed to mention a critical item that actually was down over 30%. The Consumer Price Index is just that--an Index. Some things go up. Some go down. By mentioning only those that you claimed (again, incorrectly) went up, you opened the door for someone to correct you by indicating items that had actually gone down (like gasoline.)Here are some relevant charts I pulled from the database which calculates this stuff. You will note that, contrary to your claim, energy costs are not 20% higher. In fact, they are a good deal lower, as is gasoline, which I already mentioned. Additionally, most of the food items--chicken, beef, eggs, bread, vegetables, fruit are lower (in some cases much lower) then they were last year, contrary to your incorrect claim. I guess when you don't have the facts on your side, it's easier just to call someone a "prick." Maybe you should try posting on DemocratUnderground, where name calling passes for intellectualism.

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Data extracted on: August 27, 2009 (1:46:28 PM)

Consumer Price Index - Average Price Data

Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
Series Id: APU000072621 Area: U.S. city average Item: Electricity per 500 KWH
2008	61.275	61.190	61.390	62.149	62.952	65.068	66.553	67.078	66.210	65.706	64.995	65.497
2009	66.148	66.200	65.885	65.618	65.446	66.268	65.890

Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
Series Id: APU000072601 Area: U.S. city average Item: Utility (piped) gas - 40 therms
2008	57.151	58.628	60.477	63.244	66.368	69.348	74.245	69.814	63.942	62.062	61.122	60.572
2009	59.255	57.118	54.865	51.479	48.814	49.362	49.887

Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
Series Id: APU000072611 Area: U.S. city average Item: Utility (piped) gas - 100 therms
2008	128.011	131.301	135.891	142.727	150.492	157.626	169.907	159.225	144.793	139.487	137.232	135.442
2009	131.977	126.739	121.194	112.297	105.288	106.350	107.516

Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
Series Id: APU000072511 Area: U.S. city average Item: Fuel oil #2 per gallon (3.785 liters)
2008	3.337	3.338	3.699	3.875	4.185	4.589	4.649	4.217	3.952	3.544	3.003	2.637
2009	2.509	2.451	2.319	2.354	2.344	2.449	2.452

Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
Series Id: APU00007471A Area: U.S. city average Item: Gasoline, all types, per gallon/3.785 liters
2008	3.096	3.083	3.307	3.491	3.813	4.115	4.142	3.838	3.749	3.225	2.208	1.742
2009	1.838	1.979	2.000	2.107	2.314	2.681	2.594

Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
Series Id: APU000074714 Area: U.S. city average Item: Gasoline, unleaded regular, per gallon/3.785 liters
2008	3.047	3.033	3.258	3.441	3.764	4.065	4.090	3.786	3.698	3.173	2.151	1.689
2009	1.787	1.928	1.949	2.056	2.265	2.631	2.543

Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
Series Id: APU0000702111 Area: U.S. city average Item: Bread, white, pan, per lb. (453.6 gm)
2008	1.281	1.321	1.350	1.373	1.370	1.373	1.384	1.381	1.379	1.393	1.377	1.415
2009	1.381	1.404	1.410	1.395	1.413	1.385	1.391

Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
Series Id: APU0000703111 Area: U.S. city average Item: Ground chuck, 100% beef, per lb. (453.6 gm)
2008	2.725	2.791	2.832	2.829	2.798	2.835	2.785	2.964	2.981	2.956	2.987	2.999
2009	2.961	3.019	2.976	2.994	2.876	2.873	2.800

Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
Series Id: APU0000706111 Area: U.S. city average Item: Chicken, fresh, whole, per lb. (453.6 gm)
2008	1.163	1.159	1.168	1.176	1.194	1.181	1.191	1.223	1.214	1.205	1.304	1.305
2009	1.292	1.290	1.301	1.296	1.304	1.282	1.261

Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
Series Id: APU0000708111 Area: U.S. city average Item: Eggs, grade A, large, per doz.
2008	2.175	2.168	2.203	2.069	1.930	1.920	2.011	1.854	1.978	1.858	1.838	1.834
2009	1.850	1.795	1.693	1.774	1.501	1.529	1.495

Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
Series Id: APU0000709112 Area: U.S. city average Item: Milk, fresh, whole, fortified, per gal. (3.8 lit)
2008	3.871	3.869	3.781	3.799	3.760	3.773	3.961	3.886	3.773	3.656	3.734	3.681
2009	3.575	3.319	3.116	3.084	3.068	3.009	2.992

Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
Series Id: APU0000711111 Area: U.S. city average Item: Apples, Red Delicious, per lb. (453.6 gm)
2008	1.161	1.176	1.209	1.205	1.254	1.362	1.452	1.580	1.584	1.417	1.259	1.179
2009	1.233	1.191	1.195	1.202	1.147	1.183	1.193

Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
Series Id: APU0000711311 Area: U.S. city average Item: Oranges, Navel, per lb. (453.6 gm)
2008	0.905	0.887	0.898	0.931	1.008	1.136	1.291	1.452	1.471	1.428	1.055	0.934
2009	0.896	0.912	0.889	0.910	0.963	1.060	1.191

Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
Series Id: APU0000711211 Area: U.S. city average Item: Bananas, per lb. (453.6 gm)
2008	0.521	0.540	0.597	0.627	0.630	0.633	0.627	0.634	0.631	0.629	0.626	0.617
2009	0.629	0.641	0.634	0.629	0.622	0.617	0.616

Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
Series Id: APU0000712311 Area: U.S. city average Item: Tomatoes, field grown, per lb. (453.6 gm)
2008	2.032	1.735	1.835	1.773	1.675	1.814	1.713	1.694	1.591	1.611	1.722	1.734
2009	1.661	1.556	1.511	1.591	1.584	1.604	1.618

Year	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
Series Id: APU0000713111 Area: U.S. city average Item: Orange juice, frozen concentrate, 12 oz. can, per 16 oz. (473.2 ml)
2008	2.544	2.529	2.543	2.559	2.534	2.528	2.503	2.522	2.544	2.509	2.580	2.558
2009	2.570	2.611	2.634	2.623	2.601	2.612	2.579

Your price charts are a total farce! Not one of them even comes close to what we have to pay.

Oh please let me keep Dr. Colburn and Jim Inhofe. We just moved from Denver to OKC and are leaving behind the Pat Schroeder clerk, Diane DeGette and the ever brilliant Mark Udall. Just one time, let me vote for a rightie who stands a chance at winning. Please, a little hershey chocolate on top???

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I forgot to mention we have Medicare part A + B + F with Blue Shield and part D with Humana which does not cover Viagra...

Excellent comment!!!

I've been selling health insurance to older people since 1963. That's 3 years before there was even a federal Medicare Program. Your summation of Medicare Advantage was highly accurate and well presented. Others should bookmark this thread and especially your reply as a reference!!!

The only thing you may have left out is that the more remote a county is within a state, the less likely an insurer is to offer one of these plans, especially if it's an HMO instead of a PPO. (due mainly to lack of member doctor providers also approved by Medicare)

Thanks!

"Does this idea make too much sense to implement?"

Well, not really. And coupled with "Zero based budgeting" each year, it would be a godsend!!!

I hope everybody BOOKMARKS this thread for reference. I know I certainly have... great comments, except one!!!

"Burn it, it will disappear."

I think it already has. All I get is the box with the little RBG dots in it!!! The one about the Missouri Senator getting a gargantuan cheer when she said "you have every right to fire me," is gone, too!!!

Stop spammin the thread like that! It’s really rude after some of us have bookmarked This otherwise very informative thread!!! (Plus you’re way off subject!!!)

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