Perhaps not on the ideal, but perhaps on the embodiment.
However, history has its Houdinis.
Pity it may have to get to that.
Anyway, the question remains and for your, reformulated: how many wingnuts till a generation is wasted and there has to be a war for liberty?
rephrase it anyway you like, split hairs if you will with the premises, the question still remains? How many more?
I think the groundswell of peaceful revolt by otherwise un-involved people is what makes me believe we are turning this around.
They have awakened a sleeping giant: Middle/Upper Middle Class white people.
The shouting and screaming at TownHall meetings hopefully will serve as a reminder to the extremists in Washington: You serve at our pleasure...