Posted on 08/26/2009 5:11:05 AM PDT by Kaslin
Thanks for your input but my husband and i have already discussed this with various physicians and we have made our decision. my soon to be 21 yo has made her own decision not to have the vaccine.
That’s great! But this is a discussion that you entered voluntarily, I assume. I know I did.
Of course. but again, the implication that those who are not in favor of vaccinating their daughters are somehow ignorant of the facts surrounding it, is offensive. I wouldn’t presume to impugn the intelligence or judgment of those who are willing to risk the vaccination of their children. I assume everyone has decided what they think is best for their children, after fully informing themselves.
Why?
It alledgedly only protects against 4 of the 11 viruses and comes with significant risk.
It only “protects” for 5 years, so could your actions be viewed as permission prior to graduating high school?
Thanks for your post with a good summary of facts. I did research on this awhile ago (my girls are 12). Decided not to do it. If anything, we might wait a few years and see how the vaccine works out.
OK. Where did I claim otherwise? I didn't claim this vaccine would prevent all cancer. You're fighting a straw man here.
That's true, but beside the point. Do you drive without a seatbelt because SOME kinds of accidents will be fatal anyway? I sure don't. Strong protection against SOME cancer is still a big win in my book.
(2) It lasts only five years.
Does that make the vaccine worthless? Is five years of protection worthless?
(3) You only get the virus from intimate contact. You can't get it from casual contact.
And, of course, we all know that children who are raised in good homes and taught abstinence will NEVER have intimate contact. Just like we know that our kids are taught to drive safely, so there's no point in telling them to wear their seat belts.
Let me put it this way: Do you feel that cervical cancer is an appropriate punishment for a daughter who messes up and goes too far? Better to leave her unprotected so she gets what she deserves?
It's my observation that you came into this discussion with a lot of angst about what you think people are thinking about your decision. My comment was extremely considerate of your views and your reaction in this thread suggests to me that maybe you aren't all that confident about your position.
Can we still stone her, though?
And there in lies the crux of my issue with the pushing of this vaccine. They are pushing it on PRE pubescent girls.
There has not been enough study on long term effects of this given to girls who are premenstrual and I have no intentions of subjecting my 11 year old to it, and our family doctor was thrilled to hear that, as he is not comfortable with the early push for it.
I think you are pushing the envelope a bit much here.
The majority of those of us who are not having our daughters vaccinated are making the decision based upon research.
I think the vaccine is a wonderful idea and could prove to be a great medical break through. However, I am not satisfied with the research done on girls that are still children in all sense of the word and that is where I draw the line in regard to the mandates.
In a few years, when she has actually reached adolescence, and there has been more study done, then we will discuss it. However, at the age of 11 I see absolutely no reason to subject her to it at this time, state mandate be damned.
What ARE the effects of this going to be ten or fifteen years from now? Will women be unable to get pregnant or have children with severe birth defects because they were given a vaccine that they NEVER NEEDED?
The idea that this needs to be mandatory due to rape is as absurd as the idea that 1.3 MILLION abortions are necessary because 3 to 5 THOUSAND of them are performed on rape victims.
Less than four thousand women die from cervical cancer each year. Yet THOUSANDS of girls are suffering severe side-effects (often serious) from a vaccine that WILL NOT eliminate cervical cancer.
This IS NOT polio, or even mumps, chicken pox or the measles. This is a vaccine for a PREVENTABLE virus.
Wow! This sounds EXACTLY like Zero's rationalization for murdering a baby every 24 seconds.
I do agree with you there.
Yeah, except a baby really isn't punishment. Cancer really is.
I doubt that a point by point examination of our respective positions is going to yield much.
I chose to get my daughters vaccinated because I weighed the various options, with full recognition of the possible dangers. The fears, in my situation, twice over, were unfounded.
What you choose to do with your daughters is for you to decide.
As for permission to have sex, did you get it from your parents prior to your first time? Or did you behave as a willful young person and do whatever you were going to do, consequences be damned?
So, where are the studies of the long-term effects of this wonder drug?
And for you to suggest that pediatricians (one of the poorest paid specialties) are ghouls who push unnecessary and harmful vaccines to make money on "well visits" is as reprehensible as Obama suggesting that surgeons amputate limbs for Evil Profit. And it's an insult to physicians who read their journals, attend their continuing education, and meet with their colleagues to provide the best possible care for their patients. You should be ashamed of that last paragraph of yours.
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