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To: sanjoaquinvalley
First, please keep in mind that a birth certificate is a symbol. It is easy to talk about - a piece of paper. The issue both simple and complicated: Obama’s father was never a citizen. Every supreme court case in which natural-born citizenship is discussed affirms the definition, born of U.S. citizens on U.S. soil.

Second, there are half a dozen cases in process. A discovery hearing for one of Taitz cases will be heard on Sept 8th in Southern Calif. The Kerchner v. Obama case has been in New Jersey District Court since August 3rd. Someone is being very careful about responding.

Big-time attorneys have too much to lose by getting involved. They are praying that as Obama’s soft coup is understood, he will lose enough support in 2010 to finish the job. They have the resources to survive for some years until some of the damage Obama is doing is undone.

Taitz has been attacked viciously for almost a year, and continues to fight. She makes no claim of being a constitutional scholar. She's a proud mom seeing her adopted country fall to the communism and antisemitism she escaped by leaving Moldavia. She has brought the fact of Obama’s eligibility to a worldwide audience. She corrected Berg, who focused on issues unlikely ever to be proved such as Kenyan birth, explaining the meaning natural-born citizenship in a January press conference of 2008. She has just had Facebook lock her out, perhaps from having too many congessmen sign up as "friends." The Wordpress template used at her blog has had malware inserted. (Who could access that template?) She is on our side, not the caliber attorney of Donofrio, who thinks The Republic is finished, or Apuzzo, who is thorough, careful, and may have broken through the legal blockades. But neither Apuzzo nor Donofrio are promoters. We need scholars and we need promoters, so that the public which is cowed by the Alinsky smear tactics and legal nonesense, is made aware that there is a real issue. Orly is an effective promoter or she wouldn't be under constant attack. Orly, Donofrio, Craig, Kerchner, and Apuzzo are our warriors.

If the courts do not address Obama’s lack of citizen parents disqualification, some attorneys claim that the precedence will alter the meaning of the term, opening the door to the well-funded child of non-citizen terroists, or spys, or drug cartel chiefs, to the presidency. Just look at Obama’s background: Marxist father, Marshall Davis, Whalid bin-Talal, Louis Farrakhan, Rashid Khalidi, Bill Ayres, Van Jones. Partly because he was born a British Citizen, we have little background on Barry, and it is all sealed.

If the supreme court doesn't address Obama’s natural-born disqualification, they are less likely to address it when he runs for a second term, and the republic will have become, as one of George Soros’ sons promoted in a Wall St. Jr. op-ed, a Democracy - mob rule, but with czars and a supreme court made impotent by a “living” constitution - a constitution which Obama has always said “doesn't allow me to do the things I think need doing.”

The court must affirm natural-born citizenship or our constitution will likely have been amended by precedence.
Obama must be assumed to have had his SEIU friends destroy any documents in government archives. He has stated unequivocally that his father was a British Citizen, making Obama a “dual citizen” at birth. A dual citizen cannot have absolute allegiance to one nation, and no statue can make a dual citizen a “natural-born citizen.”

30 posted on 08/25/2009 5:45:58 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Spaulding

Who is Craig?

What has happened with the three cases Berg says he filed?


33 posted on 08/25/2009 6:22:11 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Spaulding

Yes I already knew all that. But I still think it needs someone else to do it.


46 posted on 08/26/2009 10:26:10 AM PDT by sanjoaquinvalley (Long time lady lurker.)
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To: Spaulding

“The court must affirm natural-born citizenship or our constitution will likely have been amended by precedence.” No, what it will in fact mean is that the Constitutional contract has been abrogated by the federal oligarchy, usurping we the people and relegating US to tax serfs subject to the democrat oligarchy ... a fascist oligarchy about to pass into law two bills which will finally destroy the old republic. Cap&Tax is designed to give the oligarchy complete controll over energy productiona dn use, and the Obamacare bill is designed to crash the eceonomy while forcing eveyone but the oligarchs under a government dictated life and death ‘healthcare’ regime. Neither of these bills was written by the actual elected representatives, just promoted by the reps. The Stimulus wasn’t written by elected representatives either, they just took what Apollo sent to them and wrote it inot a ghastly 1000+ page bill which no one had time to read and debate. Face it, the rule of law is no longer based upon the Constitutional contract, it is based upon majority opinion as dictated by democrat party presumption.


47 posted on 08/26/2009 10:58:51 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Spaulding
Every Supreme court case in which natural-born citizenship is discussed affirms the definition, born of U.S. citizens on U.S. soil.

Unfortunately, there are no SCOTUS cases, to the best of my knowledge, which discuss the definition of "natural born citizen" as related to presidential qualifications. Some scholars contend that it means "born of US citizens," others that it means "born on U.S. soil," and still others that it means that both of these criteria have to be satisfied.

66 posted on 08/26/2009 5:45:46 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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