Posted on 08/25/2009 10:04:43 AM PDT by pissant
". . . either the president is intentionally caving to the left wing of his party or he’s lost control of his administration"
. . . or else the rest of the administration is playing "bad cop"
while Obama himself fronts for the entire operation while playing "good cop."Which, IMHO, is something like the way Stalin operated. People bemoaned the way the system behaved under Stalin, but added, "If only Comrade Stalin knew about this!"
.....It’s a total breach of faith, and either the president is intentionally caving to the left wing of his party or he’s lost control of his administration,”....
He has always been the puppet of the far left wing and never had control of his Presidency.
I don’t wonder which side they’re on.
I know which side they’re on, and it ain’t America’s.
“You will have thousands of lives that will be lost, and the blood will be on Eric Holder’s hands,” he said.
King faulted his own party leaders for an insufficient response to yesterday’s announcement.
“They’ve declared war on the CIA.
We should resist and fight back as hard as we can,” he said.
“It should be a scorched earth policy. ... This isn’t just another policy.
This goes to the heart of our national defense.
We should do whatever we have to do.”
King is absolutely right.
Every single Republican should take the gloves off like King.
A scorched earth policy to prevent a scorched earth.
You said:
“The Repubs have systematically come down hard on Oshama’s health care plan, strategically picking various pieces out to criticize.
Kudos to them for doing their part in standing so strongly against it that now even Feingold is saying it’s not going to happen.
This is a victory so far and the Repubs should be commended for standing for what’s right on this” (end snip)
LOL!
Excuse me, but the leaders in the republican party have not slowed down the democrat marxist plans.....THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE!! THE TEA PARTY PATRIOTS HAVE! THE PEOPLE AT THE TOWNHALLS HAVE SLOWED THIS DOWN!
We have not won yet either. Don’t get too comfortable.
It is National Security that Mr. King is looking out for, and I am grateful that he is speaking up.
Obviously. Which is why I said "so far".
The leaders have certainly helped as well as the protestors. They have spoken out again and again from the beginning that they are against the plan, and they have pointed out the junk details of the bill. Grassley himself withstood enormous pressure to make a deal which kept a Senate bill from being written before the break which was a huge morale booster for conservatives, and which gave impetuts to people taking to the town halls. Grassley could be a weak link since he is wishy-washy at times, but he has done the right thing so far.
In this Congress, our reps also have stood strong against the huge bills the Dems passed with the exception of THREE out of 200 or so.
Give some credit where it's due.
“Give some credit where it’s due”
I understand what you are saying, but here’s the deal: If we have to ‘praise’ the republicans for doing what we sent them to congress to do in the first place, then we are in real trouble long term. If we are now suppose to bow down to republicans for voting against a flagrant marxist agenda..then we are in real trouble long term. Voting against the democrat’s marxist bills should be a no brainer for any republican or conservative.
The House does deserve some praise of late, starting with the ‘Drill Here, Drill Now’ debate last fall and continuing to now with CapnTrade and the ‘Deathcare’ bill..however..it should have been a given that they would vote against it in the first place. THAT IS WHAT WE SENT THEM TO WASHINGTON TO DO!!
My problem with many of them is that we are not seeing them on TV shouting from the rooftops enough. They should be out there every single day informing the American people of the dangers of Obama and the democrats radical plans for our country. I just don’t see them out there(with a few notable exceptions that I can count on one hand). Today for instance...on every program on Fox News there were democrat congresscritters doing guest spots. I did not see one republican congresscritter all day long to counter any of the democrats spin and flagrant lying.
Good for you. Rep. King is a good man and a great voice for our side of foreign policy and Homeland Security. He has been very dependable on that score.
McCain was a stones throw from joining the Democrats prior to 2008, so this is not unexpected. He's not a RINO, he's a Democrat with a Republican membership.
Yes, you should praise your Reps if they are doing what you sent them to do. They should not get only condemnation all the time. No one said you should "bow down". But praise for doing what's right or even just stopping the bashing once in awhile is nice.
They should be out there every single day
They are in various ways. Stacking the panels though on the shows is a liberal trick that the media has been doing for years. Do you really believe that getting on the MSM is a matter of just saying, "hey guys, I want to be on to spout my view?" If you do, you have a lot to learn.
Believe me..I know all about McCain and his rino ways...lol. His townhall was pathetic today. At one point a woman said that she was afraid of losing her freedoms for the first time in her life and McCain countered with some gobblygoob that he had just returned from Iraq and Afghanistan and that we were still the most free country in the world.
WTH? So now we have to compare our ‘freedoms’ to every third world country in chaos or dictatorship before we are allowed to voice our concerns about Obama and the democrats march to marxism?
It was a missed opportunity for McCain to take it to the democrats and Obama. He did the same kind of thing over and over again in his townhall today. It was a perfect illustration on how we lost the election. He was on his usual republican apology tour. I can’t stand that man or his bratty daughter.
What surprised me is that Holder did not say “The CIA is a bunch of cowards.”
That’s Holder’s constant whine.
Remember that Holder told a shocked America recently that we are all cowards (WRT race).
Katy from Phillie and Arlen’s townhall seems to be taking the day off at facebook or maybe she erased me cuz I suggested she come here and be anonymous. She’s kind of gotten into the fame thing. She ain’t Joe the Plumber imo. At least he was humble.
Fran Townsend has been peddling an alternate reality version of how Eric Holder came to OK the Marc Rich pardon. Holder "got a last-minute phone call" from the Clinton White House to vet Rich, Townsend told CNN, where she is a contributor. "He was put in a horrible position," Townsend said, adding that Holder was being criticized unfairly in the Rich matter. The charitable view is that Ms. Townsend's imagination has won some battle with her memory.
The less charitable view is that her years in the Bush White House have caused her to adopt one of their more famous mottos, "Reality? We don't need no stinkin' reality, we make our own reality!" While I never bought that story and had previously heard, via the Foley Square grapevine, that Holder had deliberately hidden the pardon application from USAO SDNY so they would not have an opportunity to protest, I did not know just how far his advocacy on behalf of Marc Rich, when he was supposed to be working on behalf of the American people, actually went.
In an OpEd piece in the Saturday NYTimes George Lardner, Jr. submits what appears to be an extraordinarily well researched history of the Holder involvement in trying to get extra special treatment for Marc Rich. In 1999, Mr. Rich hired Jack Quinn, who had been Mr. Clinton’s White House counsel from 1995 to 1996, to help him advance his cause.
The Rich team was still hoping to strike a deal with federal prosecutors in New York, who were in charge of the case. An e-mail message to Mr. Rich from one of his New York lawyers said that Mr. Quinn felt “he could convince Eric that it made sense to listen to the professors and that he could convince Eric to encourage Mary Jo to do the same.”
The “professors” were two tax experts paid more than $96,000 for a study based solely on statements provided them by the Rich legal team; “Mary Jo” was Mary Jo White, the United States attorney in New York.
Holder reportedly told Quinn that SDNY's position was ridiculous--an interesting comment coming from within the Justice Department, to say the least. Mr. Holder told Mr. Quinn to write a letter to Ms. White with a copy to him, and promised to call her when it arrived. Mr. Holder then called Ms. White personally and, after that conversation, told Mr. Quinn she “didn’t sound like her guard was up.” But New York stood firm.
New York's position was consistent with the written guidelines on pardons which do not allow pardons for people while they remain fugitives.
On Nov. 18, 2000, Mr. Quinn told Mr. Holder that Mr. Rich was going to go for a pardon, a step his team had been contemplating for months. After the conversation, Mr. Quinn told colleagues that Mr. Holder had advised him to “go straight to” the White House and that the “timing is good.”
What's this you say? Go directly to the White House? Bypass the DOJ Office of Pardon Attorney?
What an extraordinary thing for a high ranking DOJ official to say! “The greatest danger lies with the lawyers,” Mr. Quinn wrote in an e-mail message to an aide to Mr. Rich, referring to the prosecutors in New York. “I have worked them hard and I am hopeful that E. Holder will be helpful to us.”
Well it turns out that the prosecutors in NY never got a chance to be a danger, because NO ONE TOLD THEM ABOUT THE PARDON APPLICATION. You see, if the pardon application had gone to the Office of Pardon Attorney like a normal pardon, the Pardon Attorney would have, as per written procedure, solicited the opinion of the USAO which originated the case.
Of course, Holder arranged for Marc Rich to bypass the Pardon Attorney and never told the US Attorney for SDNY that there was a pardon application in the air.
Under the rules governing pardon petitions — rules that were approved by Mr. Holder’s office — the views of United States attorneys “are given considerable weight” because of the “valuable insights” they have. And yet Mr. Holder did not consult Ms. White and her colleagues about the Rich pardon petition; they did not know of it until it had been granted. -snip-
The people in the United States attorney’s office in New York weren’t the only ones surprised by Mr. Holder’s decision. Deborah Smolover, his top deputy for pardon cases, did not find out about the pardon for Mr. Rich until the White House called to inform her of it after midnight on Jan. 20. (Mr. Green won a pardon, too.)
After the pardon was signed, Mr. Quinn has testified, Mr. Holder called him to commend him on “a very good job.” Mr. Holder also asked Mr. Quinn to consider hiring two former aides, one of whom had already contacted Mr. Quinn on Jan. 2 “at Holder’s suggestion.” Go read the NYTimes piece. It's quite the smackdown of Ms. Townsend's fairy tale version.
I think it was before that. On September 11 maybe.
Finally I have someone I can respect from my state.
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