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To: Trailerpark Badass

I’m assuming no such thing. Race might have played a role in this. How much or how little is difficult to say, but I can guess somewhat. I’ll reiterate my theory: They figured white people would have lots of money, perhaps to feed their habit, which was awake and screaming through their veins. They invade the house. They discover that these white people are broke, contrary to all their cherished beliefs about the two races’ socio-economic differences, and they’re so mad that they start with getting rough, escalate to getting mideival, and conclude with getting feral.

I define “hate crime” as a crime committed in order to make a statement, start a war, or simply vent racial or religious malice. So defined, I believe that classification should be deliberately ignored. You want to start a race war? You want to make a statement about how evil “those people” are? Shut up. Sit down. Let your lawyer speak, and I don’t want to hear a peep out of you. Counselor, how does your client plead? That is how you deal with “hate crimes”.


85 posted on 08/25/2009 10:40:44 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html, http://sites.google.com/site/thevuzvuz/)
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To: Eleutheria5

nothing personal since you are in the Holy Land where you have your own identity violence issues but black on white crime here is very much about race and it dwarfs whatever we did bad to a few of them in the past 100 years...exponentially. I’d invite you over and turn you loose in Jackson Mississippi at nite if you’d like It’d be like donning yer Yarmulke and parading around a martyr’s funeral in Gaza in broad daylight if you get my drift החבר שלי


88 posted on 08/25/2009 11:52:57 PM PDT by wardaddy (Ya'll don't get too cocky about Bro's malaise...Toon came back too)
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To: Eleutheria5
They discover that these white people are broke, contrary to all their cherished beliefs about the two races’ socio-economic differences, and they’re so mad that they start with getting rough, escalate to getting mideival, and conclude with getting feral.

I believe there is a reason why black-on-white rape is much more common than the converse, and that there is a reason the male was raped in this case, and that's because rape is a crime of humiliation, an exercise of sexual power. It was not random that this crime, with these victims, escalated to this degree of savagery. I'll even grant you that it may not have started out with that intent, but the racial hatred in these people was bound to come out.

Motive is often considered as an aggravating/mitigating factor in crimes like these, and likely influences juries' thinking on punishment. I think that racial hatred is an extremely pernicious motive, bordering on terroristic, and I would believe that just as strongly if the races in this crime were reversed.

93 posted on 08/26/2009 4:23:16 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Eleutheria5
"Race might have played a role in this."

I would laugh out loud at your infinite naivete, if the subject matter were not so grim and cruel.

Your comment is on the order of "Hitler might have been an anti-semite, but..."

94 posted on 08/26/2009 5:06:44 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Eleutheria5; wardaddy; Squantos; dixiechick2000; Trailerpark Badass
(M.E.'s testimony)

The suffering

Using gruesome photographs displayed on a movie-size screen, Mileusnic-Polchan detailed that suffering in a courtroom packed with relatives and friends of the slain couple.

Newsom, she said, was raped both by an object and at least one person. DNA tests were inconclusive as to identity. The sexual assault would have occurred soon after the kidnapping and, at most, a couple of hours before his death, she said.

His hands were tied behind his back. His ankles eventually were bound with a belt. Socks were stuffed in his mouth. A bandana was tied around his eyes. A sweatshirt was placed over his head and tied with his own shoelaces around his neck. He was shot three times--once in the lower back, once in the upper back shoulder near his neck, and once execution-style to the side of his head. His body was then set on fire.

Mileusnic-Polchan said Christian was kept alive for more than 12 hours and perhaps as long as a full day. The attack on her took place over time, she said.

Early on in the attack, she was orally raped, causing a membrane in her mouth to be torn, the doctor testified. She was raped vaginally and anally--more than once--over the course of her captivity, Mileusnic-Polchan said. At some point a few hours before her death, someone attacked her genital region, likely kicking her and perhaps even striking that area with an object, she said.

"This was no simple rape," she said.

Christian was hog-tied and her lower body stuffed inside five different large black trash bags. A small white plastic grocery bag was wrapped around her face, and she was pushed down into a trash can. The medical examiner said she suffocated to death. Her eyes were still partially open when she died.

Closing arguments are expected to begin today.

Read the entire article here.

96 posted on 08/26/2009 5:30:39 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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