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What black parents are still telling their children
Troy Daily News ^ | August 19, 2009 | Nat Hentoff

Posted on 08/24/2009 9:51:55 AM PDT by IbJensen

After the Obama-Gates-Crowley "beer summit" at the White House ended, Ronald Walter, a black longtime professor of politics at the University of Maryland, said: "Black parents are using this as a case in point of what they have been saying all along" to their children, "Racism hasn't gone away." Children, and especially black males, "are likely to confront it" from police. (Washington Post, July 30).

And on CNN, Colin Powell chimed in with his advice to black children: "When you're faced with an officer who is trying to do his job and get to the bottom of something, this is not the time to get in an argument with him. I was taught that as a child."

Moreover, when President Obama insisted that the situation surrounding the arrest of the Harvard professor was a "teachable moment," former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani said: "He's actually right. It is teachable." And Giuliani, customarily brusque, told people, including professor Gates, across the land: "Here's the lesson ... shut up when a cop is asking you questions!" (Fox News, July 31).

Clearly, Mr. Giuliani remains unteachable on this subject. As I reported during his dramatic mayoral career, none of his predecessors since 1958 (when I began covering City Hall) had so alienated black New Yorkers by urging his police to engage in large-scale stop-and-frisks of predominately black residents without charging them with a crime. For a time, he also refused to meet with black leaders.

As for blacks' encounters with police nationally, in 1995, Henry Louis Gates Jr. (before he became a household name) wrote in the Oct. 23 New Yorker magazine: "It's a commonplace that white folks trust the police and black folks don't. Whites recognize this in the abstract, but they're continually surprised at the depth of black wariness. They shouldn't be."

Apparently, Cambridge, Mass., police sergeant James Crowley missed that issue of The New Yorker.

In the same article, Gates added that "blacks - in particular black men - swap their experiences of police encounters like war stories." Almost as soon I got to know and hang out with black jazz musicians decades ago, I heard a lot of those war stories.

I hope, but am skeptical, that a lasting result of Gates' manacling will be the gradual decline in the number of these war stories. In all the continued coverage across the nation of the Gates bust, the one story that gave some substance to my hope appeared in the July 26 issue of the Long Island newspaper, Newsday: "Nassau, Suffolk cite training against racial profiling."

Reporters Zachary Dowdy and Rocco Parascandola told of how the "Nassau and Suffolk police departments said they aggressively work to avoid racial profiling through a medley of training programs and updates for officers."

In Nassau, along with 30 hours of training on cultural diversity in the police academy, a much more enduring practice is "data collection program that requires officers to note the race and ethnicity of motorists they stop on the road."

Detective Lt. Kevin Smith adds that this data is periodically studied to determine if the police department engages in racial profiling.

Furthermore - and I hope other police departments will take notice - Suffolk County Executive Steve Levy told Newsday: "Last year, for the first time, we completed a pilot program where we collected statistics to help identify a baseline for traffic stops and to red-flag officers who differed significantly from peers when making these stops."

What then? "We shared," said Levy, "these data with individuals who were above the norm, sought an explanation, and then possibly referred those individuals for additional training."

This postgraduate education for police officers, if extended nationally and to police on the streets as well, could eventually lead to fewer war stories among black males about the humiliation, and worse, of "Driving While Black."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: beersummit; bho44; blackfamily; cheeseandwhine; childabuse; gatesgate; obama; playtheracecard; racebaiting; racecard; racism
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To: Gabz
I truly hope that everyone here understands the sarcasm in the above sentence.

I am no longer "white".

I now declare myself to be "Euro-American"

No sarcasm intended.

101 posted on 08/24/2009 3:38:49 PM PDT by sonofagun
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To: Vigilanteman
"If white males made up 6% of the population and committed 40% of the crime, would the police be profiling if more than 6% of their stops were white males?"

Needs to be repeated at every opportunity, but it's "racist" to point out that little nugget of truth.

102 posted on 08/24/2009 4:31:57 PM PDT by libs_kma (F.U.B.O.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

First one isn’t true. It’s been debunked endlessly on this website.


103 posted on 08/24/2009 5:58:01 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: IbJensen

And on CNN, Colin Powell chimed in with his advice to black children: “When you’re faced with an officer who is trying to do his job and get to the bottom of something, this is not the time to get in an argument with him. I was taught that as a child.”
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Plenty of white folk were taught that as a child, too.


104 posted on 08/24/2009 7:18:15 PM PDT by JavaJumpy
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To: lentulusgracchus

THanks for the update on Hentoff’s leanings. Has PBS fired him yet (since I don’t listen anymore).


105 posted on 08/25/2009 5:36:45 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: IbJensen

It’s true, racism hasn’t gone away. It’s just that it now predominantly resides in the black community instead of the white community.


106 posted on 08/25/2009 5:39:01 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: SeattleBruce
Blah, blah, blah...who was it that cleaned up NYC, you maroon! Reality doesn’t matters to these loons.

Rudy also tried non-stop to take guns away from lawful owners and lobbied for more federal gun control laws.

But to some, the end always justifies the means.

107 posted on 08/25/2009 11:17:04 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: I Buried My Guns
....I swore that if I ever won the lottery I'd assist low SES youth by helping the ones who had academic promise ....

I admire your impulse, but what is "SES"? Bureaucratic abbreviation?

108 posted on 08/25/2009 3:06:25 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Liz; Deb
Deb, are you getting all this?

Still think Rudy's a conservative?

You were pretty serious about upbraiding the Rudy Unbelievers upthread, and reprehending our ignorance of the man's real positions on things.

109 posted on 08/25/2009 3:09:06 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: hout8475
My home city of Houston is approximately 25% black. Yet, more than three-quarters of the city bus drivers are black.

I live in Houston, too. Second-hand "as told to" anecdotal info is that both Metro, the bus service, and the Solid Waste Division are black fiefdoms.

The word is, they're color-blind on hiring, but if you're white and you hire on, the black hands will "unofficially" make sure you don't stick around.

In other words, they're racist as hell and nobody ever, ever, ever, in 30 years, has called them on it. Never.

110 posted on 08/25/2009 3:14:14 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Dudoight
Has PBS fired [Nat Hentoff] yet (since I don’t listen anymore).

I don't know, I don't follow his career. Do you mean NPR? I seldom "listen" to PBS, but I do watch it.

I avoid NPR, it's a waste of earlobes. Socialist scum, pretending to be fair but managing to get only to mellow.

111 posted on 08/25/2009 3:20:40 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

RIGHT...I am so familiar with them I don’t know the difference between PBS and NPR. Remembered the name Nat Hentoff from years ago.


112 posted on 08/25/2009 10:32:44 PM PDT by Dudoight
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To: lentulusgracchus
The term SES means "Socio Economic Status"; normally it is used with the word "lower" in front of it to denote "poor".

The word "poor" has fallen out of fashion. People who work in education have been brainwashed with this term for many years now, and I use it too.

I must fight the power and overcome my programming!

113 posted on 08/26/2009 5:25:13 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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To: I Buried My Guns
I must fight the power and overcome my programming!

LOL -- "Smash the Matrix!!"

BTTT.

114 posted on 08/27/2009 4:27:02 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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