Will it be possible to ‘reverse’ this bill at some point? (if it passes)
I think the tactic when used to subvert the will of the people is called dictatorship or treason, depending on your perspective.
This is the “nuclear” option and the Republicans considered using it when the Democrats filibustered every single judicial nominee.
Maverick John McCain came to the Democrats’ rescue at the last minute.
Do you need 51 senators present for a Quorum?
And some of us wonder why vampire books and movies have become so wildly popular lately...
The govt. plan does not need, by some of their own anticipatory statements, 90% of the specialists now in practice, and in shortage to the public, as the govt cut all specialist training positions by 25% in 2000/2001 nationally. Cutting out private insurance carriers and reducing practice incomes of the private practice docs to medicare or below, levels of reimbursement will force them from practice. They cannot be absorbed into salaried hospital positions. The public, in ignorance, is about to see their MD populations reduced beyond what will be their pleasure and they will be trapped in a static world of rigidly controlled health MANAGEMENT with no recourse to draconian policies by ‘committee’...soooo collectively utopian with real results in the dredful arenas of imagination.
Here is the recent link related to socialist medicine, NO IMAGINATION:
http://mises.org/story/3650
Is there any doubt left that the primary purpose of nationalized health care insurance is to increase the power of the left in this country? The sad thing is the extent to which individuals do not see the power grab for what it is. Also, before I forget, this should make clear to the GOP once and for all that “big business” is not a constituency for them (ie the pharma companies striking a deal with the White House to promote this nationalization, GE, etc...)
There’s a term for a political movement which becomes a secular religion of the state and which drags in large private interests to its web. But of course it’s the pissed off retiree who castigates a congressman who’s the true fascist.
The left is comprised of those of limited means who expect something for nothing and those of means who don’t expect to have to use the crappy state run programs they want to foist on the people.
I don’t get it. Has this country not learned from recent history? Ten years ago a leftist president was proclaiming the end of the “era of big government” and yet here we are in the 21st century with idiots clamoring for the creation of a 1960s-ish bureaucratic monstrosity to control one-fifth of the nation’s economy.
This nonsense has been played out again and again in human history. It doesn’t work. It stagnates economies, destroys liberty, and pits group against group.
Leftists don’t understand a thing about economic growth and wealth and job creation. They think job creation is about taking the money of the character in the Monopoly board game and dispensing it through the federal department of job creation. They want to kill the economic goose which has provided so many golden eggs (and jobs) to this country over the years and resulted in a large and independent middle class. They hate this. It may seem quaint, but these knuckleheads live and breathe Marx. They believe they are fighting the great class war and their enemy is the American bourgeois, as well as those entrepreneurs who risk their money and time to pursue their dream and create plenty of jobs and opportunities along the way for others.
The results of nationalizing health care and some kind of cap and trade nonsense passing will be felt swiftly and severly in this country. It will absolutely kill any chance of regaining the robust economic and job growth Americans have come to take for granted. Investment will go elsewhere.
This seems rather obvious. So why is it happening? Simple. It’s a political power grab, which happens to fit the ideology of the left. These moves will increase the political power of the left in this country by making Americans yet more dependent upon the federal government. Just take a look at how older Americans react to any proposed changes in Medicare and Social Security (nevermind the looming financial cluster both of those represent or the $2 trillion deficit the federal government faces this fiscal year).
This crap absolutely has to be defeated. Or else we are going to be telling our children and grandchildren what living in a free and prosperous America used to be like.
Pass this bill at your own peril is my thought.
There is a storm brewing!
They operate by their own rules. We haven’t the will to fight back (Rs in office).
This is not going to be pleasant.
In other words, people who don't understand the basics of capitalism swear up and down that their program is economically viable. Yeah, no.
Did anyone ask this putz how many of these tens of millions of uninsured are illegal aliens, and why should the American people be forced to pay for insurance for people that don't belong here?
The response was as follows:
First, Senate Republicans would be united in their opposition to use of the reconciliation process to pass health-care reform.
Second, Republicans would use every parliamentary and procedural tool available to slow or stop Senate proceedings, for example by withholding approval of unanimous consent requests, requiring the reading of legislation in its entirety, offering numerous amendments, and forcing votes on adjournment.
Third, if the Democrats still proceed under reconciliation, Republicans would offer substantial ideas and alternatives to the health-care reform bill.
In response to this, a part of me says:
"I'll believe it when I see it..."
But for starters at least it is something...
Stop. Right. There.