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Member sees depth of healthcare emotions at events (CA)
The Hill ^ | August 23, 2009 | Molly K. Hooper

Posted on 08/23/2009 5:40:37 PM PDT by jazusamo

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- While some Democratic lawmakers have canceled town hall meetings after their colleagues endured criticism from health-reform opponents, GOP Rep. Dan Lungren (Calif.) has struggled to find a space large enough to accommodate the throngs of people showing up at his meetings.

With two public healthcare forums under his belt since returning home for recess, the lightning-rod issue has shaken up thousands of his constituents, many of whom were unable to fit in the venues booked months ago by his staff.

Spending a day with Lungren in the rural portion of his district southeast of Sacramento, it was apparent that cameras have not been able to fully capture the electric political current generated on both sides of the issue, palpable in the air at the local events.

“I knew there was something there [before recess] but didn’t realize how massive it was,” Lungren repeated all day Saturday following a town hall meeting he held that morning in the sleepy town of Jackson, Calif.

Lungren represents an ideologically diverse district that elected him with less than 50 percent of the vote; the president also beat GOP contender Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) with less than 50 percent of the vote as well.

The response from his constituents has been remarkable in terms of the volume of individuals galvanized to make their voices heard and to hear what their congressman has to say about the state of play in D.C.

Despite some pundits branding the protests at Democratic lawmakers' townhall meetings as fringe, manufactured publicity stunts, there is an undercurrent of genuine concern beyond the Beltway that is seen in the number of individuals and small groupings of locals showing up at the events.

“This is unlike anything I’ve seen,” Lungren told The Hill on Saturday as the 25-year veteran state and federal lawmaker's car pulled up to the town hall meeting. “It’s not organized, it’s spontaneous; it’s an extraordinary outpouring such as I have never seen before.”

Nearly 500 people turned out to partake in the forum but only 250 were able to fit in the standing-room-only civic center.

Those who couldn’t sit in the room stood outside, or in the kitchen area off of the main hall or under the arbors surrounding the building attached to the county police department.

Agitated locals on both sides of the hot-button issue had equal time to ask questions, but it was evident that more than half of those in attendance opposed the Democratic-sponsored healthcare overhaul.

Lungren, considered a vulnerable Republican in 2010, is an ardent opponent of Obama’s healthcare plan and was pressed several times early on about his position.

Many in the room scowled when their neighbor Dr. Robert Hartman – an internist and Amador County public health officer – spent five minutes reading a Letterman-style top-10 list that began “No. 10: The status quo is unacceptable … whatever plan we come up with has to be revenue neutral” and culminated in “No. 1: A public option is necessary.”

The sprinkling of attendees holding glossy blue posters provided by the AFL-CIO that read "Health Care Can't Wait" in lime green lettering applauded Hartman's sentiments, to which Lungren responded that several points in the doctor's list were contradictory.

“Point No. 10 and point No. 1 are in absolute conflict; the public option program as presented in the bill has been scored by CBO as a minimum of $1.2 trillion … even with all of the additional taxes presented in this bill. It is not revenue neutral; the largest expenditure in this program is the public option, the idea that the public option creates competition – I respectfully disagree,” Lungren responded, evoking loud cheers from a majority of the room as several homemade posters with hand-written phrases were waved in the air.

Following his nearly hour-and-a-half exchange with those inside the civic center, Lungren took questions from those individuals who weren’t able to make it into the room for lack of physical space.

The GOP lawmaker spent an additional half hour speaking to a crowd of 100, using a police cruiser megaphone as a microphone.

Those gathered around Lungren, who stood under an open back door of a Jackson County police Dodge Durango, were respectful of each other as well as of the eight-term congressman, four years into his second stint as a representative. He served in the House for five terms between 1979-89.

Proponents of Obama's healthcare plan said they wanted to participate in the event and not alienate.

“We came here not wanting to be confrontational and just really trying to be respectful of listening to everybody’s ideas,” said Sharon Romano, member of the Calavaras Democratic central committee.

But Lungren, battle-tested after enduring four years of hateful “facial gestures and threats of physical violence” by anti-Bush administration and anti-war demonstrators at town hall meetings, said he was ready for confrontation.

Though individuals at his healthcare town halls have been passionate, outspoken and full of conviction, Lungren says that they have been civil – unlike those in the past.

This week he will hold his third town hall meeting since the House adjourned for recess, and based on the interest in his past two meetings -- more than 1,000 people attempted to attend his first meeting but there was only space for 350 in the room – Lungren is making every effort to accommodate all who want to participate.

Though the space in Rancho Cordova, a Sacramento suburb, can hold several hundred in the main room where he will be located, the venue is taking steps to provide greater access to the discussion, including setting up an overflow room as well as providing loudspeakers and monitors in the outlying areas.

Lungren says he's looking forward to it.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; danlungren; lungren; obamacare; townhall

1 posted on 08/23/2009 5:40:37 PM PDT by jazusamo
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2 posted on 08/23/2009 5:42:36 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

How can Obama and company POSSIBLY claim that their plan will be “revenue neutral”? The cost started at $1.6TRILLION! And they want to make it “revenue neutral”?

It’s load of BS is what it is.


3 posted on 08/23/2009 5:50:14 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrat - The new Party of National Socialism. Pelosi and Kosmas - founding members.)
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To: jazusamo

“But Lungren, battle-tested after enduring four years of hateful “facial gestures and threats of physical violence” by anti-Bush administration and anti-war demonstrators at town hall meetings, said he was ready for confrontation.”

Pretty telling statement on just how ugly these marxists behave and not in the so distant past. But suddenly, when we Americans show up, we’re the kooks and we’re the ones causing ‘problems’. No mention of recent past antics and truly ugly, vile remarks and gestures is ever made


4 posted on 08/23/2009 5:52:44 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Hey............How's that Hope and Change Thingy workin' for ya?)
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To: jazusamo

Dan Lungren sounds familiar... I left California 5 years ago... is he one of the good guys?


5 posted on 08/23/2009 5:53:15 PM PDT by John123 (My Definition of Liberals - Folks who validates their existence by calling someone a racist.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

1.6 Trillion mulitplied by 4 (= Gov. math real figures) and you have 6.4 Trillion as a cost just to start out.


6 posted on 08/23/2009 5:53:50 PM PDT by The Bat Lady (The Constitution tells you that you can NOT vote yes on Socialized HealthCare.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Exactly! There’s no way it can be “revenue neutral” but Obama and his RAT supporters have no compunction about lying and they know many will believe it.


7 posted on 08/23/2009 5:55:42 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Yep, I live in Dem. Brian Baird’s district in WA and he canceled his town halls and likened us to Brown shirts. He finally apologized and decided to have the town halls but he spoke his true mind and only changed his mind because the people were irate and he knew he’d jeopardized his reelection.


8 posted on 08/23/2009 6:01:23 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: John123

I don’t know because I left CA a lot longer ago than you but he sounds like one of the good guys.


9 posted on 08/23/2009 6:02:32 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: VeniVidiVici
How can Obama and company POSSIBLY claim that their plan will be “revenue neutral”?

They will do what Obama has been doing from the very outset.

They will LIE.

10 posted on 08/23/2009 6:07:52 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: jazusamo

Hope everyone remembers that at election time. They are truly RATS scurrying all over the place and screaming lies the entire time they speak. Changed his mind my ass, you’ll see it change back on CSPAN


11 posted on 08/23/2009 6:14:39 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Hey............How's that Hope and Change Thingy workin' for ya?)
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To: John123

Yes, he is a good man, a conservative. And evidently remembers that he works for We the People. I loved it that he went outside and answered questions from those who couldn’t get in.


12 posted on 08/23/2009 6:59:14 PM PDT by bboop (Tar and feathers -- good back then, good now)
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To: bboop

Thanks, glad you confirmed it and him going outside to answer questions was a good indication of it.


13 posted on 08/23/2009 7:05:16 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: John123

He’s mixed. He was the author of the 1986 Amnesty bill.


14 posted on 08/23/2009 7:09:45 PM PDT by Judges Gone Wild (Who is this uncircumcised, to oppose the armies of The Living God?)
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To: John123

Yes, Dan is definitely one of the good guys. I worked on his campaign when he ran for governor against Gray Davis.


15 posted on 08/24/2009 8:48:20 PM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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