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"The Truth.." (Critique, please: TN FReeper will leaflet Obama-bots with this at Town Hall)
Self | August 23, 2009 | Mrs. Don-o

Posted on 08/23/2009 2:14:49 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

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41 posted on 08/23/2009 4:32:40 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I don't have a problem with the material, but with its delivery.

Many of the people you need to convince will never read past the first line -- to get to the "BUT...".

I tried to "get into the liberal mindset", and my reaction was, "See: 'they' even admit that all of their slogans are lies!".

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Either the "punch lines" (i.e. "This slogan is a lie -- as stated".) should be moved deeper into the respective section OR the supporting "BUT!!" should be emphasized -- to tempt the superficial reader to continue on into your real (and really good, BTW!!) arguments.

But, then maybe I've been listening to the voter imbecility revealed by Hannity's "Man on the street" interviews for too long... ;-}

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Good luck!!! -- and please provide feedback here as to how it went...

42 posted on 08/23/2009 4:32:56 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

43 posted on 08/23/2009 4:33:16 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"When I began working in the health policy area about 20 years ago ... I thought we would definitely have to ration care, that there was a need to make a decision and deny people care." And: "I think that over the last five to seven years ... I've come to the conclusion that in our system we are spending way more money than we need to, a lot of it on unnecessary care. If we got rid of that care we would have absolutely no reason to even consider rationing except in a few cases."
Who, exactly, is "we?"

The fundamental problem he addresses is that needs - not just wants, when it comes to health care - are infinite. Everybody dies eventually, and until that is no longer true choices will have to be made. Dr Emmanuel presumes, in using "we," that the government must must make those choices. Good socialist that he is, Dr. Emmanuel will not recognize the merit to the point, but it is not government but society which must make the choices.

Socialists are so used to conflating "government" with "society" that they will not be clear on what you are saying if you make a distinction between the two. The difference between "government" and "society" is freedom. In the absence of freedom, the government is the "single payer" - meaning, the government pays the piper and calls the tune. To the extent that there is freedom in a society, that is not the case.

Newt famously wanted Medicare to "die on the vine" due to effective competition from private enterprise (a la the Post Office and Federal Express); socialists want the opposite case in which private competition is gradually throttled and the government has unchecked monopoly power.


44 posted on 08/23/2009 4:42:10 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Health Insurance Agent.
Stock Broker.
CFP
Journalism Degree
College Debate

I think you have done a GREAT job!
(If my opinion means anything)

Anyway, it is astounding how LITTLE the opposition knows about Obamacare. Very few of them have even heard of Ezekial Emanuel.

“Troop Moral” is VERY important -— I think OUR SIDE has the mojo, we are more committed, we have the passion.

However, take EVERY opportunity to undercut the moral and the “moral authority” of the opposition.

Liberals have elderly relatives that they worry about.

Liberals have disabled relatives that they worry about.

It is time for CONSERVATIVES to reveal the UGLY truth about the Left:

They want “USELESS EATERS” to DIE!

45 posted on 08/23/2009 5:13:05 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Re Lie #1.

I believe that Zeke Emmanuel wrote an essay that not only says it would not be discriminatory to ration healthcare for older people (over 65), since after all we all go through various ages, but that he also argues that health care should be withheld or rationed for children under 13, since less has been “invested” in them, so presumably they aren’t worth as much to the state. Something to that effect was posted here yesterday.


46 posted on 08/23/2009 5:32:10 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: kellynla

Very good Kellynla, good thoughts. And you’re right about the Marine Vet speaking his mind. I think that’s a good example of what I mean by a politician being arrogant and CONFIDENT, the Representative didn’t give a hoot what the Marine was actually saying, he was just “holding a townhall meeting”.

But a lot of people (especially now) sure heard the Marine and they will remember him and also find strength through his example to do likewise. For that I’m thankful.

Something’s wrong (thinking on the hidden monster) because of the silence of our “Gelding Party” (good one!), I mean there’s not a fighter among them. To realize that all along we have been electing RINOs, appeasers, “compromisers” to our very destruction. Amazing, and also infuriating.

And yet, we have this wonderful woman not officially running for anything who has the enemy in an uproar! Now THAT’S strength, and her strength is in her faith, in the truth of what she says, in her sincerity, her love of country and family, nothing contrived, all genuine, my kind of leadership! You Betcha!

Thanks Kellynla, regards,


47 posted on 08/23/2009 6:18:54 PM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thanks for the ping.


48 posted on 08/23/2009 7:01:56 PM PDT by GOPJ (Journalists - - stenographers for Democrats - it wasn't always that way...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2322458/posts?page=12#12

The link tells what the socialized medical system was like in Russia ... check it out.

49 posted on 08/23/2009 7:05:52 PM PDT by GOPJ (Journalists - - stenographers for Democrats - it wasn't always that way...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

See you and Mr. Don-o at the Johnson City event? I’ll be in my little electric four-wheeler.


50 posted on 08/23/2009 7:23:17 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I don’t know!


51 posted on 08/23/2009 7:41:43 PM PDT by ethics
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To: Mrs. Don-o

That’s exactly what’s needed. I’ve had good response from flyers I’ve made. I walk all around and look for people standing on the sidelines watching — as though they’re not quite sure what it’s all about. I’ve never seen any of my flyers thrown away.
It’s hard to hand out flyers with a sign so I carry a bag with extras and try to catch someone’s eye.


52 posted on 08/23/2009 9:37:12 PM PDT by Bhoy (The check is in the mail.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Bump!


53 posted on 08/23/2009 9:46:12 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Mrs. Don-o

BTTT


54 posted on 08/24/2009 2:59:31 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Mrs. Don-o

bump


55 posted on 08/24/2009 3:54:43 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine PFC- 1/16/09 - Parris Island - LC -6/4/09 - 29 Palms - Camp Pendleton 6/18)
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To: MHGinTN

Finally, we shall meet. I’m going to try to leave work a bit early - we may need to print up a few more flyers. We ran off 50. What do you think?


56 posted on 08/24/2009 3:57:29 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine PFC- 1/16/09 - Parris Island - LC -6/4/09 - 29 Palms - Camp Pendleton 6/18)
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To: TXnMA
Many of the people you need to convince will never read past the first line -- to get to the "BUT...".

Actually, the edit at the top of this was my small contribution. The Mrs did a LOT of reading and research and boiled it down in her own excellent style.

My opinion is that people are more likely to read more of something they think they agree with. We shall see...

57 posted on 08/24/2009 4:04:07 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine PFC- 1/16/09 - Parris Island - LC -6/4/09 - 29 Palms - Camp Pendleton 6/18)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"If you are not satisfied with services, which could you more successfully challenge, sue, boycott, or fire: a private business or a government agency?"

The gubmint may not be sued. They are immune from lawsuits. Sez who? Sez them.

58 posted on 08/24/2009 4:29:20 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: don-o
"My opinion is that people are more likely to read more of something they think they agree with. We shall see..."

Well, my first impression was, indeed, "This is a liberal hit-back piece", so, if your theory is right, it should go over well. Hope it does!!!

To your "Mrs" -- and to you: Great job!! -- and thanks for the REAL activism!!

And please do let us know how this trial run is received -- it is the sort of thing lots of us could/should use!

Go get 'em!!!


59 posted on 08/24/2009 5:27:10 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: henbane
Bold - good point.
60 posted on 08/24/2009 5:41:45 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("It's no exaggeration to say that the undecideds could go one way or the other." George Bush)
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