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McCain: Health debate hurt by Kennedy's absence [praises Kennedy as "master negotiator"] [barf]
AP ^ | 2009-08-23

Posted on 08/23/2009 9:08:44 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican Sen. John McCain says the absence of ailing Ted Kennedy in pushing health-care reform has made a "huge, huge difference" in whether legislation gets passed.

McCain praised Kennedy, a Democratic senator from Massachusetts, as a master negotiator who could bring together parties with different points of view and make the right concessions to reach agreement. McCain said health-care reform might be in a very different place today if Kennedy had been able to participate in the discussions.

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1 posted on 08/23/2009 9:08:44 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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2 posted on 08/23/2009 9:09:55 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (May God save the American Republic.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I think Red Ted’s “absence” is proof that God has not turned his back on America, yet.


3 posted on 08/23/2009 9:10:25 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (January 20th, 2013)
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To: rabscuttle385
What's that pain I feel in my back? Oh, it's the McCain knife in there again.
4 posted on 08/23/2009 9:10:47 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: rabscuttle385

Only a complete fool would have anything to do with the democrat plan.

Then again McCain was created by the State Media to be the Designated Loser of the Stupid Party.


5 posted on 08/23/2009 9:11:37 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: rabscuttle385

And I voted for that idiot.


6 posted on 08/23/2009 9:11:52 AM PDT by donhunt ("If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." - Mario Andretti)
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7 posted on 08/23/2009 9:12:10 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (May God save the American Republic.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Seriously, Arizonans, what gives?! What in heck keeps you all voting for this guy? Yes, yes, I know what your border situation is, but you can do better.


8 posted on 08/23/2009 9:14:26 AM PDT by definitelynotaliberal (So how about, in honor of the American soldier, ya quit making things up? - Gov. Palin)
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To: rabscuttle385
a master negotiator who could bring together parties with different points of view and make the right concessions to reach agreement

And that would be a good thing?

9 posted on 08/23/2009 9:14:59 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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10 posted on 08/23/2009 9:19:06 AM PDT by SUSSA
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11 posted on 08/23/2009 9:19:06 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: rabscuttle385

Republican Sen. John McCain says the absence of ailing Ted Kennedy in pushing health-care reform has made a “huge, huge difference” in whether legislation gets passed.
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Put both of these men out to pasture!


12 posted on 08/23/2009 9:20:15 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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McCain said health-care reform might be in a very different place today if Kennedy had been able to participate in the discussions.

Well then we are fortunate that he WASN’T there....now aren’t we
“McCain=rolled over like a beached Whale Nov 4 2008”


13 posted on 08/23/2009 9:21:49 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Hey............How's that Hope and Change Thingy workin' for ya?)
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To: rabscuttle385

On the day of the election, we prayed, we did novenas, we fasted.

In our house, we prayed, “Please Lord, your will be done. And if it’s your will, let Obama lose.”

We were very sad when he won. My youngest daughter cried hysterically about all the unborn babies. Our Priest gave a homily to the kids at Catechism about “God’s Will” and how now our job is to pray for the enlightenment of our leaders. Honestly, I was angry. I felt that The Lord did not listen.

Now I know He did. If McCain had been president, he would have screwed it up and there would have never been another R for a good long time.

One of the FReepers has that tagline that says “It takes a Jimmy Carter to get a Ronald Reagan.” That is correct.


14 posted on 08/23/2009 9:21:54 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: rabscuttle385

It’s crap statements like that why I consider McCain utterly unfit for leadership.


15 posted on 08/23/2009 9:22:44 AM PDT by A message (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days until Jim Thompson is President)
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To: Outlaw Woman

maybe this is a better structure of that sentence:

John a.k.a. “rolled over like a beached whale, Nov 4 2008” McCain


16 posted on 08/23/2009 9:24:50 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Hey............How's that Hope and Change Thingy workin' for ya?)
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To: rabscuttle385

Cry me a river Juan. So McCain thinks all that’s missing is a negotiator to make universal healthcare acceptable to the American people. Please!

McCain has a head full of rocks. Kennedy might have been able to get McCain and the other rino’s to jump on, but this isn’t about D.C. This is about the American people saying no to socialized medicine.

Just another example of why McCain lost to Obama.


17 posted on 08/23/2009 9:27:11 AM PDT by NotSoModerate (Report dissenters to snitch@whitehouse.gov for a $4,500 tax credit)
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STEPHANOPOULOS: The president also says that the debate has been infected by falsehoods. And probably the most notorious one is the one made by your former running mate, Sarah Palin , who said that his bill would encourage death panels that would encourage euthanasia.

He called that “an extraordinary lie” and he is right about that, isn’t he?

MCCAIN: Well, I think that what we are talking about here is do — are we going to have groups that actually advise people as these decisions are made later in life and...

STEPHANOPOULOS: That’s not in the bill.

MCCAIN: But — it’s been taken out, but the way that it was written made it a little bit ambiguous. And another thing ...

STEPHANOPOULOS: I don’t think that’s correct, Senator. The bill — all it said was that, if a patient wanted to have a Medicare consultation about end-of-life issues, they could have it at their request and the doctor would get reimbursed for it, no panel.

MCCAIN: There was a provision in the bill that talks about a board that would decide the most effective measures to provide health care for people, OK?

Now, we had amendments. We Republicans have said that in no way would that affect the decisions that the patients would have made and their families. That was rejected by the Democrats and the HELP Committee.

STEPHANOPOULOS: But that’s not a death panel.

MCCAIN: So what does — what does that lead to? Doesn’t that lead to a possibility, at least opens the door to a possibility of rationing and decisions made such are made in other countries?

STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, every single independent group that looked at it said it just wasn’t true.

MCCAIN: Well, then why did the Democrats turn down our amendments that clarified that none of the decisions that would be made by this board would in any way affect the depriving of needed treatments for patients?

I don’t know why they did that then.

STEPHANOPOULOS: So you think Sarah Palin was right?

MCCAIN: Look, I don’t think they were called death panels, don’t get me wrong. I don’t think — but on the best treatment procedures part of the bill, it does open it up to decisions being made as far — that should be left — those choices left to the patient and the individual. That’s what I think is pretty clear, which was a different section of the bill.

STEPHANOPOULOS: You worked — have worked a lot with Senator Kennedy, on immigration and other matters. How much of a difference has it made that he hasn’t been part of this debate?

MCCAIN: Huge, huge difference. No person in that institution is indispensable, but Ted Kennedy comes as close to being indispensable as any individual I’ve ever known in the Senate, because he had a unique way of sitting down with the parties at a table and making the right concessions, which really are the essence of successful negotiations.

So it’s huge that he’s absent, not only because of my personal affection for him, but because I think that health care reform might be in a very different place today.
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=5&docID=news-000003193712


18 posted on 08/23/2009 9:27:11 AM PDT by maggief
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19 posted on 08/23/2009 9:28:38 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (May God save the American Republic.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Idiot. Kennedy doesn’t negotiate. He skulks around behind the scenes looking for ways to get over on his opponensts. What Kennedy did behind the scenes of the Bork nomination in 1987 is a perfect example.

Kennedy prefers not to debate, not to negotiate because (as the infamous Roger Mudd interview showed) he can’t think on his feet. I give him credit for being ruthless and sneaky, but not for negotiation.


20 posted on 08/23/2009 9:28:50 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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