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GOP Should Shut Down Senate If Dems Use Procedural Tactic to Ram Through Health-Care Bill
CNSNews.com ^ | 8-20-09 | Pete Winn

Posted on 08/23/2009 4:23:33 AM PDT by kingattax

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1 posted on 08/23/2009 4:23:33 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

Schummer has said they will use it and if they are sure they have the votes...they will. They don’t care WHAT they pass, they just want to create another “kitty”...just like SS, Medicare, Medicaid....


2 posted on 08/23/2009 4:29:06 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: kingattax
Why wait?

Do it now.

3 posted on 08/23/2009 4:31:45 AM PDT by knarf
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...Republicans will literally shut down the Senate by using parliamentary maneuvers, ...

The parliamentary maneuver is simply the quorum call so often used. To stop a quorum call takes unanimous consent. Once in a quorum call, any single Republican can "object" to lifting the call. The Senate comes to a full halt until the objection is lifted. This could be FOREVER!

4 posted on 08/23/2009 4:32:58 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: kingattax
“The only remedy for this, is for the minority in Congress...to make it clear that if this is used on such a major piece of legislation, that the minority Republicans will literally shut down the Senate by using parliamentary maneuvers, and so forth--so that literally nothing else will pass this year and next, until there is another election,” Bauer, who is president of the group American Values, said.

Are there any experts out there in FreeperLand who might be able to enlighten us all on the details of the possible parliamentary maneuvers?

5 posted on 08/23/2009 4:36:10 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: knarf

” Do it now. “

Now??

Should have been done to stop the Porkulus bill, which would have nipped the whole Socialist Coup in the bud....


6 posted on 08/23/2009 4:38:10 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: kingattax

Have the Republicans got the balls?


7 posted on 08/23/2009 4:39:36 AM PDT by Ex-Democrat Dean
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To: kingattax

repubs are for sale..


8 posted on 08/23/2009 4:44:11 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Ex-Democrat Dean

naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah


9 posted on 08/23/2009 4:44:44 AM PDT by Flintlock
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To: knarf

I’m with you. If this nightmare passes we are done, shut the senate down as soon as they find out they are going to vote using reconciliation.


10 posted on 08/23/2009 4:45:26 AM PDT by calex59
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To: TexasRedeye
The parliamentary maneuver is simply the quorum call so often used. To stop a quorum call takes unanimous consent. Once in a quorum call, any single Republican can "object" to lifting the call. The Senate comes to a full halt until the objection is lifted. This could be FOREVER!

Here's a thought to brighten your day. Republicans pull this, then after 2010 when they win majority and lift the objection the democrats respond in kind! With a little luck we can get them to shut the senate down for the next 200 years or so, effectively saving us all from any more onerous bills to be passed, EVER. Wow, one can only dream.

11 posted on 08/23/2009 4:49:07 AM PDT by calex59
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To: kingattax

I’m sure Olympia Snowe will be all over that procedure.


12 posted on 08/23/2009 4:54:47 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: calex59
With a little luck we can get them to shut the senate down for the next 200 years or so, effectively saving us all from any more onerous bills to be passed, EVER.

I love it!

13 posted on 08/23/2009 5:00:07 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: calex59

” With a little luck we can get them to shut the senate down for the next 200 years or so “

A more likely outcome might be that it would open the door for 3rd - and possibly 4th, 5th, 6th, etc - parties to become viable - bringing about the rise of European-style coalition politics...

Which would be, at the very least, interesting.....


14 posted on 08/23/2009 5:05:42 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: kingattax

None of this is going to happen because the Senate bill will look nothing like the House bill. The “public option” won’t be in it and it will have bipartisan support because it is being crafted by a group of 6 Senators, Dems and Reps.

This assumes anything at all comes out of the House. The whole thing may blow up there before it even gets to the point of Senate consideration.


15 posted on 08/23/2009 5:10:41 AM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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“...ramming through what they want, no matter the cost.”

The very essence of the DhimmiRat party, today. They don’t give a rip about the Constitution, the people, the cost, or anything else. They only care about CONTROL. It has always been about CONTROL with them. They use their lofty rhetoric and their twisted logic to sell the sheeple, but it remains about CONTROL.

It’s time to take back the country. From the DhimmiRats and from the Pubbies, IMO. Neither of them represents the will of the people anymore.


16 posted on 08/23/2009 5:15:34 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: Man50D

I believe the NEW designator for Olympia is Sen. YELLOW Snow!!


17 posted on 08/23/2009 5:16:23 AM PDT by PushinTin (NEVER, argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!!)
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To: Ex-Democrat Dean
Have the Republicans got the balls?

Only if we send 'em a set of these.

18 posted on 08/23/2009 5:17:24 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: kingattax

The idiocy or should I say mental illness that inflicts these clowns is mind boggling. If you know by driving your car off the cliff you will not survive but you want to do it anyway says volumns as to the attitude and pompus arrogance of these morons.


19 posted on 08/23/2009 5:18:52 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Reagan dead is doing more for America than zero alive)
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To: TexasRedeye
-- To stop a quorum call takes unanimous consent. --

Nope. A majority of senators present (which might be only a few) can request a "hot quorum." The words "without debate" cuts off use of the tool of objection, and of cloture, which is used to surmount objection.

Senate Rule VI, paragraph 4. Whenever upon such roll call it shall be ascertained that a quorum is not present, a majority of the Senators present may direct the Sergeant at Arms to request, and, when necessary, to compel the attendance of the absent Senators, which order shall be determined without debate; and pending its execution, and until a quorum shall be present, no debate nor motion, except to adjourn, or to recess pursuant to a previous order entered by unanimous consent, shall be in order.

Quorum is one of a few things in the Senate that actually DOES work on simple majority.

20 posted on 08/23/2009 5:20:25 AM PDT by Cboldt
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