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Guns and Obama Debate: He Had a Gun and Nothing Happened
cbsnews.com ^ | 21 August, 2009 | Larry Pratt

Posted on 08/22/2009 5:37:31 AM PDT by marktwain

GUN DEBATE - As President Obama travels the country to promote his ideas about health care reform, he has been met with hearty debate. But he's also been met with something unexpected, gun-toting citizens who seem to be making a statement about more than just health policy.

Are these citizens merely expressing their second amendment rights or do they present a dangerous provocation?

We asked two experts for their take.

Opinion contributed by Larry Pratt, Executive Director of Gun Owners of America.

Click here for Paul Helmke's opposing view.

SPRINGFIELD, Va. (OPINION) From New Hampshire to Arizona, Americans openly carrying firearms have been seen outside presidential appearances. The most remarkable thing about this is that some find this behavior to be remarkable.

American citizens are the sovereigns in our system of government. Indeed, We the People created the government which, at least in theory, only does what we tell it to do in the Constitution. Sovereigns are expected to be armed.

The Second Amendment was added to our Constitution to ensure that the individual right to keep and bear arms not be infringed. Infringement would impair the proper functioning of the militia which had been America’s homeland security system all through colonial times and well into our republican era.

The armed attendees made it clear that they were exercising their right to keep and bear arms. Zero tolerance of firearms has become so extreme that even a picture of a gun can get a student kicked out of school. The presence of armed citizens helps correct the notion that guns are inherently dangerous.

Americans are increasingly deciding to go about openly carrying firearms even when they might legally carry them concealed. Some would like to say that this constitutes disturbing the peace. It is a strange view that accepts as normal a police officer openly carrying a firearm, but finds it alarming when a sovereign citizen – the cop’s boss – does the same.

In addition to the educational value of going about openly armed, the presence of such citizens has another positive impact. Real homeland security is being maintained. The Secret Service is tasked with protecting the president and other select individuals – and nobody else.

For those who object to openly armed citizens being present near presidential events, do they have any concern for the wellbeing of those who do not benefit from Secret Service protection?

A few years ago, I was at a conference where the governor of the state of Arizona was to speak. Shortly before the appointed time a member of the governor’s security detail came into the room from a service entrance, looked around the audience, which included at least a dozen people openly carrying sidearms, ducked out of sight and returned with the governor.

The governor’s security was aware of the armed attendees, and was also aware that the guns were holstered and obviously under control. They evidently thought that was proper gun control.

There are those who don’t like Americans owning guns at all, let alone carrying them openly. They can be counted on to run around squawking like Chicken Little that the sky is falling – a calamity brought about by the presence of an armed citizen in public. We are warned that: Somebody might grab the gun and do something bad! The armed citizen will intimidate others! Tempers will flare and blood will run in the streets!

These are the same alarms that are sounded when any measure designed to facilitate citizens keeping and bearing arms is advanced. And the alarms are always false. Before passage of Florida’s concealed carry law, for example, we were warned that the Sunshine state would become the Gunshine state.

One would think that consistently being wrong would be embarrassing, but one would be wrong about those who assume that common citizens are untrustworthy and dangerous.

A tip of the hat to those who have stirred the debate. And, our thanks to them for exercising proper gun control and reminding us of how homeland security should be conducted.

Click here for Paul Helmke's opposing view.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; bhotownhalls; debate; healthcare; larrypratt; opencarry
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1 posted on 08/22/2009 5:37:31 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I am a conservative and I trust my fellow citizens.

I am a liberal and I do not trust my fellow citizens.

That sums it up.


2 posted on 08/22/2009 5:44:38 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: marktwain

Guns make a society very polite and respectful.


3 posted on 08/22/2009 5:59:53 AM PDT by taxtruth (FIAT MONEY SHOULD BE BANNED FROM THE WORLD!)
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To: marktwain
"Are these citizens merely expressing their second amendment rights or do they present a dangerous provocation? "

I live near Atlanta, where home invasion, robbery, and car jacking are on a dramatic rise, so yes...my gun presents a very "dangerous provocation" to anyone who tries these behaviors against me or my family.

As far as "expressing" my 2nd amendment rights, my weapon is secure in my home and hurting no one. I got my first shotgun at age 14, for hunting; I'm now 64 and I have owned guns all my life...however, I have never shot anyone, or even pointed a gun at anyone. I don't think that way...but, I will surely unload on any perp that threatens me and mine.
4 posted on 08/22/2009 6:18:11 AM PDT by FrankR (We are only enslaved to the extent of charity we receive....INCUMBENTS OUT!!!)
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To: marktwain
Larry Pratt: As Mayor of Fort Wayne, Indiana for 12 years and as a candidate for office, I've been to a lot of contentious public meetings - even some where people were carrying guns. I've seen first-hand how heated those events can be and how those who bring their guns have the potential to stifle debate as well as put others at risk of injury.

Larry, you have the potential to be a rapist. Should the government have your equipment removed before you go out in public?

5 posted on 08/22/2009 6:37:12 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Too many zeros in the budget. And the White House.)
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To: marktwain

Criminals and politicians prefer unarmed victims!


6 posted on 08/22/2009 7:42:05 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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The brainless mantra of the anti-gunners is “there are too many guns on the street.”

The reasoned response is, “if there are too many guns on the street, then disarm the police.” It would be quick, as we know who and where they are, and since they’re sworn to obey the law, they probably wouldn’t shoot at you while you’re taking away their guns, unlike a criminal.

If the anti-gunner has even the slightest ability to reason, and even the slightest sense of humor, you’ll be able to make them see that their stand is more than a bit stupid. That the problem isn’t too many guns, but too many criminals with guns.

Of course, too many anti-gunners are hard core liberals, which means that they won’t understand what you’re getting at (i.e. unable to reason) and have no sense of humor. So you might as well just bang your head against a wall, since that will feel better once you stop.

Mark


7 posted on 08/22/2009 7:58:31 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: MarkL
Of course, too many anti-gunners are hard core liberals, which means that they won’t understand what you’re getting at (i.e. unable to reason) and have no sense of humor.

It seems like just about all those who oppose the Second Amendment are big government socialists, whether soviet socialists from the "left" or national socialists from the "right", whatever difference there is between "left"-wing and "right"-wing socialists. Personally, I can't tell them apart or even distinguish which side obama is on.

8 posted on 08/22/2009 9:37:42 AM PDT by TurtleUp (flag@whitehouse.gov <------- So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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