Posted on 08/21/2009 10:18:56 AM PDT by pissant
Here's another fun detail from last night's Americans For Prosperity teletown hall, which featured Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) and Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN). Both politicians said that if a health care bill passes, it should be actively fought and resisted through a collective effort of conservative governors.
A caller asked DeMint what the states could do in order to stop unconstitutional action by the federal government on health care. DeMint replied, "I think the key to pushing back against the federal government is some governors and state legislators who champion individual freedom."
DeMint said he would love to see states go to court to invoke the Tenth Amendment: "If we had some states come together and say the only way to save this country is to push back." He also added: "I think you'll see some states say no more, we're not going down with the federal government."
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Crist is a RINO and whoever replaces him will be a RINO too. Maybe Idaho or Wyoming. Or surprise..Hawaii.
So Rick Perry of Texaas must be nuts also. I mean if some guy on the internet says it’s hopeless it must be /sarcasm. We could go into your ignorance on basic civics and the separation of powers but I guess you need to point me to the SCOTUS Police Force website. I thought so.
You need to pass the legislation first. One can’t sue in federal court without “standing,” and that means you suffered or will suffer injury; and that the law is currently in place, not future.
It has already happened regarding gun control. During the Clinton years the Congress passed a bill limiting the possession of guns nearby public schools. Another dumb liberal law that would have no impact on safety; meaning, if a bad guy wanted to murder children he would not be deterred because a sign said it was illegal. It passed anyway. But the SCOTUS struck it down citing the Tenth Amendment.
So we have hope.
Actually, I’m not an attorney, just a technical man with a love of American history.
Unfortunately, the executive branch is pretty independent under our Constitution so the Congress (one of the independent branches of our government) and the Federal judiciary (another independent branch of our government) would have a tough time stopping the mere appointment of czars — by definition, they are an extension of the executive. I think about all Congress could do is throttle back on the funding for the Executive Branch — of course, that would need a GOP legislature. Meaning, if the Congress is willing to fund it, then the POTUS could have a bevy of advisors, or czars, for every purpose under the sun. They would have not statutory authority, but they could talk and write and issue their stupid opinions the whole day long.
But recall that Executive Privilege is not absolute — remember back to HillaryCare in 1994. Not sure if I recall why.
Our best course of action is, naturally, the Second Amendment. Free speech and the media. Hammer the Administration to be “transparent” like he promised. Protest with placards outside the White House. Keep AM talk show hosts riled up and excited. In the end, that is the citizen’s best protection against executive abuses. Free speech, free media, and an honest (hopefully) judiciary. [Note, I do not include liberals like Ruth Bader Ginsburg in that category.]
The MSM and liberal blogosphere will continue to mock them as loonies, and possibly racists. Simultaneously, they will applaud state and local ignorance of federal drug and immigration laws.
Be more careful in your reading. I think we are in agreement. I was telling the other two to have hope; they were both lamenting about hopelessness.
A lot of you may be surprised to find that our new governor, Sean Parnell, is even more conservative than Sarah. I have high hopes. The population of Alaska is, to a large extent, anti-federal govenment. I think we would be willing to join any sort of legal challenge to this farce.
“If Obama attempted something punitive, like punishing the claimant states, the judge could literally fine the Gov’t and direct the behavior to stop. THAT is the kind of publicity that even Obama doesn’t want. The judge could even hold the Cabinet members, and the President, in contempt of court”
All Obama has to do is threaten to withold money. That would be enough, in my opinion. State governments have very little backbone.
Well, I understand your point given that you’re from Minnesota, where hearts bleed and pansies reign. Not you, of course — but it never ceases to amaze me how people of Nordic stock — tremendous common sense, other great cultural attributes — can be so loopy sometimes.
Thanks tom. They’ll be going hard after talk radio soon. The new “brother” that 0 appointed to the FCC will see to it. We gotta push back HARD when that one rears it’s ugly head.
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