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To: Leisler; Loud Mime; ChrisInAR; dcwusmc; Clinging Bitterly; 08bil98z24; zeugma; Sir Gawain; ...

If you legalizers were interested in being serious about the topic you would take on the responsibility of finding a solution. A nation full of drugged citizens is not going to be the America that gave us our liberty. The first step is acknowledging that it is a spiritual problem.

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Main Entry: phar·ma·cy

Etymology: Late Latin pharmacia administration of drugs, from Greek pharmakeia, from pharmakeuein to administer drugs, from pharmakon magic charm, poison, drug
Date: 1651

1 : the art, practice, or profession of preparing, preserving, compounding, and dispensing medical drugs
2 a : a place where medicines are compounded or dispensed b : DRUGSTORE
3 : PHARMACOPOEIA 2

The term magic arts comes from the original word,
pharmakia, from which we also get the word pharmacy. It
also refers to the use of drugs, or sorcery. Those involved
in sorcery get high on drugs in order to make it easier to
contact demons. Pathetically today, millions of young
people are getting in bondage to Satan through the use of
drugs without even knowing it.

Most people taking drugs claim there aren’t any harmful
affects from drugs. But drugs act as a tool to open the
mind, and leave you defenseless against evil spirits entering and taking possession. Ninety percent of those who belong to the church of Satan started on drugs.

As mentioned earlier, the mystics of the east use drugs in
order to go into a trance which enables them to make
contact with the spirits, and they are soon possessed by
them. Charles Manson is a typical example of one who
became possessed by evil spirits through drugs.

Revelation 18:23 - sorceries (Pharmakia, in the Greek) = drugs.

Source: www.aboundinglove.org


142 posted on 08/21/2009 1:57:34 PM PDT by donna (Democracy is not enough. If the culture dies, the country dies. - Pat Buchanan)
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To: donna

OF COURSE there is a spiritual failure. There’s no question of that... but in my mind it started out when “Christians” started using government to do THEIR jobs. NOWHERE in Scripture have I ever found where Jesus said to get laws passed in order to stop sin. NOWHERE. What He said was for us to go forth and be His disciples, SHOWING BY EXAMPLE the difference Christ can make in folks’ lives. When Christians got lazy and started getting government to do THEIR job, they forgot that satanic forces can ALSO use the force of government to do THEIR job as well, and the result is the evil we see today.

So are YOU going out to seek out those downtrodden drug users and prostitutes and showing them that there’s a better way for them to live? Or are you just showing them that they either do it YOUR way or go to jail? Which is it, donna? Personal example or using the government and its force over EVERYONE to do your job toward the few?

Don’t you EVER try lecturing people until you can ASSURE them that you are doing YOUR OWN part to witness the way God wants Christians to witness: by personal example, NOT by force of government’s guns.


145 posted on 08/21/2009 2:10:14 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: donna
A nation full of drugged citizens is not going to be the America that gave us our liberty.

Actually all drugs were legal when the Declaraton of Independence and the Constitution were written.

But, let's return to your statement: if pot is legalized we will have a nation full of drugged citizens? Oh, please.

I do not understand your argument. Are you saying that people do not do drugs because of their character, as you quoted Walter Williams before; or, are you saying that they do not do drugs because of our law, which you seem to also claim.

Also, in your arguments you ignore the crimes that are taking place because of the drug dealers, then charge us "legalizers" with not being serious about the problem. Let's see, what's worse? Murder or Pot legalization....let me think.

155 posted on 08/21/2009 3:40:34 PM PDT by Loud Mime (barastikas = Obama's logos)
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To: donna
If you legalizers were interested in being serious about the topic you would take on the responsibility of finding a solution.

We (and I don't mean to speak for everyone in your ping but I believe I am in good company) are quite serious about finding a solution. Actually, not so much finding it as it is plain as the nose on our faces, and it is ending prohibition.

The present solution (to drug use in and of itself) employed by much of modern civilization, and to quite an extreme in the U.S., is demonstrably the cause of the most serious drug related problems we face today. The sphere of crime we see that is associated with drugs is almost all the result of drug prohibition.

So, we have correctly identified the problem and do seriously propose the solution.

A nation full of drugged citizens...

There is just nothing to support an assertion such a thing would happen.

The first step is acknowledging that it is a spiritual problem.

Spiritual, morality, whatever you want to call it, some people (good people) do and always will have those failings. But your talk of drugs as magic potions somehow opening a door to the mind for evil spirits is simply asinine.

There is plenty room for persuasive discussion of the biblical principles, keeping the temple clean and so on, but the short term and long term affects of drug use are well studied and documented in science and they are purely medical issues, no more or less than one's poor diet being a contributor to certain disease risk factors. There are criminally insane people who have used drugs, and those who haven't. Likewise, lung cancer patients who smoked or worked in coal mines, or did neither.

Post prohibition, those health issues would remain unchanged, because they have no relationship whatsoever to spirituality, morality, or any law of man. People who are serious about those issues have long recognized that prohibition has done nothing to solve them, and further that it frustrates them in many ways.

159 posted on 08/21/2009 4:10:45 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (He must fail.)
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To: donna
If you legalizers were interested in being serious about the topic you would take on the responsibility of finding a solution.

Of course we are serious about finding a solution to America's drug "problem" -- but you Police Staters refuse to listen. The solution is RE-LEGALIZATION; ending the War on Drugs; returning our nation back to its roots of individual LIBERTY, especially when it comes to those of us who use responsibly & are not a threat to others.

I agree that it is a spiritual problem. But not everyone has the desire to live their lives as clean as Billy Graham has done. We have a God-given right to behave in such a manner. To paraphrase what Paul wrote in Romans 1:6, I can't help but say

For I am NOT ashamed of my smoking of pot.

164 posted on 08/21/2009 5:02:16 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: donna
A nation full of drugged citizens is not going to be the America that gave us our liberty.

YAWN. Lets take away liberty in order to promote liberty. I think I will pass.

Pathetically today, millions of young people are getting in bondage to Satan through the use of drugs without even knowing it.

Thats redicilous.

The supporters of the unjust, unconstitutional, and un-American WOD are getting desperate.

Charles Manson is a typical example of one who became possessed by evil spirits through drugs

Give me a break. Charles Manson is an example of an EVIL PERSON. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

Another dislussional supporter of the WOD.

265 posted on 08/23/2009 11:36:14 AM PDT by 08bil98z24
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