Gee whiz, 367 miles per gallon!

The Washington Times ^ | August 20, 2009 | Editorial staff

[WhiteCastle]

General Motors announced with great fanfare last week that its new Chevy Volt will get 230 miles per gallon. Not to be outdone, Nissan quickly announced that its new electric car, the Leaf, will get 367 mpg. If you believe that, we have a couple of auto companies in Detroit to sell you.

The car companies are using the Environmental Protection Agency's draft methodology to figure out their fantastical mileage numbers. The hitch is that mpg estimates measure the efficiency of engines that run on petroleum. In an era of electric cars -- when vehicles supposedly won't be propelled by gasoline-powered internal-combustion engines -- these estimates are nonsensical.

[HiTech RedNeck]

The EPA is all uptight about ordinary cars’ gas mileage claims. Why silence about this? The limit would be infinite “miles per gallon” while running off of nothing but charged batteries.

[Nachum]

Oh yeah!? Well my superdelux electrosupercaro can get 500 miles to the gallon.

[Nervous Tick]

Betcha I could sketch out in 20 minutes a (very) rough design for a car that would get 40,000 miles per gallon*!

* of plutonium

[taxtruth]

Problem with these statements.Ask this question,”how much will a person have to spend for electricity for a full charge”?Think about it.

[JimC214]

Will they be using the super secret Carb. That gets 300 miles to the gallon?

[jadedeagle]

My Flexostretch Extendable Electrolux Turbokickerboosters have been known to get more mileage than all of the put together.

[taxtruth]

Nuclear energy is by far the most efficient energy produced by man as of today.

[4rcane]

another webpage pointed out its more correct to say

40 miles on electricity then 50 miles per gallon after for the 230 VOLT car

[Larry - Moe and Curly]

Excuse me. I think I’m missing something. I always thought that MPG stood for Miles Per Gallon. Not sure why a hybrid should be rated differently unless you change the reference to Miles Per Energy Required To Go That Mile or MPERTGTM.

If that’s the case then for true comparison, for the petrol-based car, you would need to take into account the amount of energy it took get the oil out of the ground, shipped to a refinery, converted to gasoline, transported to the gas station, electricity to operate the gas pump, etc.

Let us not hammer hybrids just because the environmental wackos like them. They have their place and their market. I don’t want them stuffed down my throat, but what about a free market where they either live or die on their own merits or performance? At some point we have to get our transportation off oil. Why wait until the last minute?

We’re Americans. We’re innovators. Let’s innovate.

[BilLies]

The mileage claim proves that Son of OBama has transformed lying motor company executives into LYING MOTOR COMPANY POLITICANS. For instance, if it only went 40 miles on the electrical charge and no miles on the gasoline, which is certainly possible on a 30 mile round trip, the car would be getting a trillion miles or infinite number of miles a gallon....or we might say we have discovered/invented perpetual motion regarding the use of gasoline for this car. Of course the fact that it electricity powering the car is left out of the equation.
Using electricity to power automobiles, as it is currently generated in most states today, is less efficient, cost more and is more pollution generating than using gasoline.

[353FMG]

Osama and Al-Qaeda are fully aware of that fact.

[4rcane]

the funny thing is, by the time Government Motors release their 230MPG car, it be outdated

[taxtruth]

If cars start running on electricity then the price will go up for the cost of electricity.Why do you think the government wants cap&trade.You have to recharge an electric car so cap&trade will push electricity to an all time high.Al Gore is licking his chops I bet waiting for the feast along with Buffet the Muppet.Look to see how these cars are recharged and I don’t think they will “SELF” recharge.Just an observation on my part.

[King Moonracer]

Problem with these statements.Ask this question,”how much will a person have to spend for electricity for a full charge”?Think about it.

Exactly right. How may gallons of oil, tons of goal or thingies of natural gas will it take to charge it up. Just another Obama-esque truth.

[Spirochete]

Using electricity to power automobiles, as it is currently generated in most states today, is less efficient, cost more and is more pollution generating than using gasoline.

Primarily because of conversion losses and transmission line losses.

Wall current pollutes, and the average person just can't comprehend it. How do you dumb it down to the level of American Idol viewers?

[TNoldman]

My old 1984 Mustang 4 cyl. Turbo gets 22 mpg on a level road. If I go up a hill I get 10 mph but, on the down hill side (coasting) I get 100 mpg. I average then 55 mpg.

This makes the same sense as counting the miles I drive in an electric car on electric power in the calculation of MPG.

More Obama BS. It’s all Obama’s fault.

[Zhang Fei]

Gee whiz, 367 miles per gallon!

Maybe if you get out and push.

[From The Deer Stand]

Here's a real electric vehicle from a Wisconsin inventor:

Electric vehicle

[Steven Tyler]

My truck gets 500 miles per gallon.
I coast down a hill and extrapolate the realized mileage over a longer distance