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To: editor-surveyor
I disagree with your understanding of Scripture. The Holy Spirit never leaves the Christian.

"...lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world." -- Matt. 28:20

Life and Scripture make a lot more sense when we see there have been only two eras in mankind's existence -- B.C. and A.D. All history leads up to Calvary and flows from Calvary.

"(God) hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel" -- 2 Timothy 1:9-10


629 posted on 08/25/2009 9:24:11 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; editor-surveyor
[ "...lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world." -- Matt. 28:20 ]

"with you" does not necessarily mean in your person/body/human spirit/"soul"..
The Paraclete is "one comes alongside to help".. but not to possess you..
"Demons" seem to want to control people.. The HS does not seem to want that..
Responsibility requires choice.. Human life seems to be a "TEST" of choices..

This is a rarely discussed subject... I Think.. but fairly important..
Where does Jesus end and the HS begin or the Father enter..
If the HS is "there" then so is Jesus.. in essence.. and "the Father" too..

Philip was confused on this issue too..
When he asked "Just show us the father" and we will be satisfied..
What a Spirit/spirit is has not been determined... by humans as far as I know..

EVEN, including OUR own spirits..
Can a Spirit be separate and together at the same time?..
Basically a dimensional "MERGE".. Who knows....

An interesting subject we will know "someday".. I suppose..

634 posted on 08/25/2009 10:14:25 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"I disagree with your understanding of Scripture. The Holy Spirit never leaves the Christian." The Christian will have already left. At the last trump (of Yomkipur) the believers will be raptured, prior to the beginning of the tribulation. Since the HS is here to comfort the believers, he has no cause to be here after they have left. When we return in our changed state, the Lord will be here with us physically.
642 posted on 08/25/2009 11:53:07 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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