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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop; xzins; 1000 silverlings; Quix; Marysecretary; Dr. Eckleburg; P-Marlowe
Long time, no see A-G!

My own theory is that when the Adversary rebelled, he did so having deluded himself that the Holy One was just some sort of super-angel who could eventually be superceded. That's why evolution and the idea of the overthrow of the elder god(s) are both such important elements in so many pagan belief systems: They're a reflection of the Adversary's desire to be "like the Most High."

His strategy all hinges on the hope that he can somehow outmaneuver God and prevent even one of His promises from coming to pass. If he could, that would prove that God is not truly Eternal (that is, outside of Time) and therefore not truly the Creator of Space and Time. Furthermore, in Genesis 15, the Holy One entered into a one-sided covenant with Abraham, and did so according to an ancient form that said by its symbolism: "If I break My word, then let me be torn apart like these animals." Satan is so focused on destroying the Jewish people because if he could do so, God would either have to destroy Himself or would be shown to have broken His promise to do so in front of the whole universe.

Of course, since the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is the Eternal One, the Adversary doesn't have a chance--but after some six thousand years of rebellion, lies, and death, Satan a) probably has deceived himself into believing his own lies, and b) doesn't really have a choice but to push through and to hope against hope that he can find some strategem that will work. He stands condemned either way, with no hope of redemption, so why stop now? Why not at the very least steal away some of the Father's joy by destroying many of His children?

The Chevlei Mashiach, the Birth-Pangs of the Messiah, are not judgments by God per se. Rather, the increasing tempo of chaos, of false messiahs, wars and rumors of wars, famines, earthquakes, disease, and signs in the heavens result from the Adversary's increasing desperation as his every attempt to block the completion of the Great Commission, destroy Israel, prevent the reconciliation of Israel's children, stop construction of the Third Temple, etc. are defeated. This will culminate in his final expulsion from the heavenlies at the midpoint of Daniel's Seventieth Week: "But woe to you, earth and sea, for the Devil has come down to you in great fury, for he knows he has but a short time" (Rev. 12:12).

Therefore, this is not a time to fear or become complacent. It is a time to rejoice even as we roll up our sleves "as you look forward to the Day of God and speed its coming" (2Pt. 3:12).

Shalom.

483 posted on 08/24/2009 5:38:54 AM PDT by Buggman (HebrewRoot.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: Buggman

He has reportedly convinced the globalist oligarchy that with the fallen angels’ technology and human something—that part’s not clear—some say—invitation—that Almighty God is merely just another “ET’s” and will be defeated at Armageddon.

Satan knows better. But imagine what a heady bunch of arrogant buttons got pushed with the human global leaders on that fantasy!

And what a way to sucker more idiots into hell.


485 posted on 08/24/2009 6:24:15 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Buggman; Alamo-Girl; xzins; 1000 silverlings; Quix; Marysecretary; Dr. Eckleburg; P-Marlowe
He stands condemned either way, with no hope of redemption, so why stop now? Why not at the very least steal away some of the Father's joy by destroying many of His children?

Marvelous, marvelous insights, Buggman!

What a beautiful essay/post! Thank you oh so very much!

499 posted on 08/24/2009 10:21:54 AM PDT by betty boop (Without God man neither knows which way to go, nor even understands who he is. —Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Buggman; betty boop; xzins
Hi there, dear Buggman! Indeed, long time, no see.

And what fascinating insights you have brought to the discussion. It's a great example of why I look forward to reading your posts!

Your explanation of Satan's focus on Israel is particularly interesting. But no matter what he tries, no matter how many he influences, God will not cast off the seed of Israel for what they've done.

But this [shall be] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, [and] the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts [is] his name: If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, [then] the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.

Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD. - Jer 31:33-37

And again I find xzins' insights pertinent to your description of what's going with Satan. God could poof him out of existence at any time.

Instead, we see God's mercy and judgment writ large - Satan has enough rope to hang himself, personally - and so do we, personally.

500 posted on 08/24/2009 10:29:13 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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