I SEE YOU..
Must be how the RATS are justifying health care...
Ok, I am a moron.
How in the hell do they peer back in time???
Totally amazed at our knowledge and abilities. Still no cure for cancer.
THIS could be the forum to discuss the logical proof for God’s existence!
The big bang idea is bad physics and bad theology rolled into a package.
Aha... Now we can work on star drive technology to surf the grav waves.
Kowabunga dude.
I SEE YOU..
Well-l-l-l-l-l, since we needed something to explain the lack of mass to maintain galaxy shape (Dark matter) and we needed something to explain the accelerated expansion of the universe (Dark Energy), all we need now to explain the lack of gravitational waves is Dark Ripples. (/Sarcasm)
All I want to know is, when do we get JetPacks?!!
“The “non-discovery” offers insights into the state of the Universe just 60 seconds into its existence.”
And what do they see? I’ll bet they see an empty and formless earth just like the Bible says.
Ping.
Here is a thought.
An observation is only as good as the instrument used and the perspective/vantage-point at the point of observation.
One could have a very tiny, microscopic vantage point and a very narrow idea of what to look for and how to look for it, and with the best instrument designed around those limits produce a ton of “data” which, in the end, may prove, in a sort of circular logic - nothing more than that our observation instruments work because they obtain what we designed them to obtain, from our limitations of knowledge and perspective/vantage point and using the huge theories we have built with those limitations.
I truly believe that whenever we are finally “star travelers” that many of our theories and assumptions about the universe, its age, how creation continues and many other things will be blown away by knowledge gained in getting to the stars and what we actually find there.
Much of astronomical science has less hard first hand facts and more theory than even the man-made global warming hoax.
Pinglist Ping
Just show us the certificate.
Here is a thought.
An observation is only as good as the instrument used and the perspective/vantage-point at the point of observation.
One could have a very tiny, microscopic vantage point and a very narrow idea of what to look for and how to look for it, and with the best instrument designed around those limits produce a ton of “data” which, in the end, may prove, in a sort of circular logic - nothing more than that our observation instruments work because they obtain what we designed them to obtain, from our limitations of knowledge and perspective/vantage point and using the huge theories we have built with those limitations.
I truly believe that whenever we are finally “star travelers” that many of our theories and assumptions about the universe, its age, how creation continues and many other things will be blown away by knowledge gained in getting to the stars and what we actually find there.
Much of astronomical science has less hard first hand facts and more theory than even the man-made global warming hoax.
I believe that ideas like “ripples in space-time” are due precisely to the limitations of such a microscopic perspective of our tiny vantage point and our limited real knowledge. I think it is more about how things we don’t fully understand appear to us, than how they actually are.
pinging my favorite cosmologists...
I think I pinged y’all to a thread on the LIGO a while back.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2266921/posts?page=78
One of the testable predictions of Hatch’s theory is that LIGO, the Laser Interferometer Gravitational Wave Observatory, will fail to detect gravity waves. As of July 2007, this prediction stands.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2270920/posts
To: Alamo-Girl
Thanks, AG.
From what I can gather about this scientific controversy, one of the approaches that was supposed to settle it was the Laser Interferometer Gravitational Wave Observatory being used as a gravity wave detector. Has it found gravity waves? If not, would that indicate an upper bound of how energetic they would be?
Gravity wave detector all set
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/sci_tech/2003/denver_2003/2774163.stm
The Suppression of Inconvenient Facts in Physics http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2266921/posts
Hatch’s proposed alternative to special and general relativity theory, Modified Lorentz Aether Gauge Theory (MLET), agrees with General Relativity at first order but corrects many astronomical anomalies that GRT cannot account for without ad-hoc assumptions, such as the anomalous rotation of galaxies and certain anomalies in planetary orbits. In addition, the force of gravity is self-limiting in MLET, which eliminates point singularities (black holes), one of the major shortcomings of GRT. One of the testable predictions of Hatch’s theory is that LIGO, the Laser Interferometer Gravitational Wave Observatory, will fail to detect gravity waves. As of July 2007, this prediction stands. (30)
http://www2b.abc.net.au/science/k2/stn/archives/archive51/newposts/347/topic347102.shtm
21 posted on Monday, June 15, 2009 12:28:05 AM by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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The Hymn of Creation
At that time there was neither
existence nor non-existence,
neither the worlds nor the sky.
There was nothing that was beyond.
There was no death, nor immortality.
There was no knowledge of the day and night.
That one alone breathed, without air, by itself.
Besides that there was nothing.
Darkness there was enveloped by darkness.
All this was one water, without any distinction.
It was inactive, covered by void.
That one became active by the power of its own thought.
There came upon it at first desire,
which was the first seed of the mind.
Men of vision found in their meditative state,
the connection between the Being and the Non-Being.
All gods were subsequent to this creative activity.
Then who knows from where this came into existence!
Where this creation came from ,
whether He supported it or not,
He who is controlling it from the highest of the heavens,
He perhaps knows it or He knows it not ! (Rig Veda X.129)
bflr
So the speed of light is not believed to be a constant, after all?
My head is spinning.