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To: Vincent Jappi
The Left likes to use the newspaper announcements as irrefutable "proof" that he is a natural-born citizen. What they're ignoring is that the issue is not necessarily where Obama was born, but rather to whom. He could've been born right next to the Liberty Bell, but this would be immaterial if one or both of the parents owe allegiance to some other foreign country. A person born to a father who has a double allegiance, or who is not a citizen of the U.S., is not a natural-born citizen, period. The fact that Hawaiian newspapers announce his birth means nothing. Place of birth does not define nor control citizenship -- and it certainly does not define natural-born citizenship.

Snopes attempts to explain this away by stating that "these [parental] qualifications...are moot because they refer to someone born outside the United States." From every analysis of the Framers' documents and 14th Amendment that I have read, this is false. The qualifications apply regardless of birthplace.

Snopes further claims that since the 14th Amendment states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States," then that means that since Obama was born in Hawaii, then he is a natural-born citizen. Nope. Simply being a citizen of the United States is not the same as being a natural-born citizen.

Of course, an actual birth certificate would clear all of that up in an instant. So why is Obama spending millions to avoid producing this and other personal documents? Because he has something to hide, that's why. People don't spend millions to stonewall the release of something that wouldn't hurt them at all if it were released.

34 posted on 08/19/2009 7:08:38 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

The difference between the birthplace issue and the dual nationality issue is:

–we know that the Usurper will be exposed as such if it is proved that he wasn’t born in the US but we don’t know if he was or not.
The relevant strategy is a political campaign asking for the real certificate.

–We know that the Usurper is a dual citizen but we don’t know if a court will find this a sufficient reason to declare him ineligible.
The most advisable strategy is to ask for a judicial assessment of his status.

Both strategies are enough to expose the Usurper, and both imply som kind of wager. Both should be pursued.


50 posted on 08/19/2009 8:15:08 PM PDT by Vincent Jappi (Parempi myöhään kuin ei milloinkaan)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

Snopes is lying, as is Factcheck.org


51 posted on 08/19/2009 8:17:19 PM PDT by Vincent Jappi (Parempi myöhään kuin ei milloinkaan)
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