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To: dalebert; All
is this saying that he was born in hawaii

No. Indeed, it's strong circumstantial evidence that he probably wasn't. Then and now the Hawaiian law regarding birth certificates provided that the original, basic birth certificate, the "Certificate of Live Birth," as all such documents were and are actually entitled, could be acquired either by: 1) being issued by a hospital or other birthing center and signed by its designated officials and the attending physician or 2) if he child was not born in a birthing center, by one of the child's parents filling out and signing the Certificate. In option 2) there was and is no requirement of notarization and no requirement of corroboration and independent verification. Hence, if the Illegal Alien was born in Kenya, it would have been a piece of cake for Madelyn Dunham to make him into a "natural born American" by completing a fake Certificate showing him born at the Dunhams' address, forging Stanley Ann's signature to it, and mailing it in.

Use of the Dunham address in the newspaper notifications indicates that's exactly what happened. Thereafter, all of the subsequent secondary documents, including the newspaper birth announcements and the "Certification of Live Birth," were legally produced, being based on the original fraudulent Certificate, without anyone having to do any other illegal acts (GIGO).

49 posted on 08/18/2009 7:46:21 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

well brothers grandson is half itallian.his grandfather in italy filled out papers making him an itallian citizen the day baby was born in usa. the child has dual citizenship.


53 posted on 08/18/2009 7:50:21 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: All; libstripper; UCANSEE2; RobinMasters; Richard Poe; Carl/NewsMax; Rush Limbaugh; backhoe

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For years after its Statehood, Hawaii allowed babies born off islands to Hawaiian residents to be registered as born in the Stare of Hawaii when they returned. Babies born WHERE EVER..!!!

I personally recall hearing several conversations between women customers shipping their cars to Hawaii from Los Angeles in the Mid to Late 1960’s. http://www.Matson.com

They were openly telling each other to be sure to get a Hawaii Birth Certificate made upon their arrival in Honolulu. Baby born WHERE EVER in tow.

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79 posted on 08/18/2009 8:38:11 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: libstripper

Yes, a definite possibility.

Obama was born in Hawaii, because his mother said so. Just like John Kerry won the Purple Hearts because John Kerry said he deserved them.


261 posted on 08/20/2009 11:47:13 AM PDT by cvq3842 (Countless thousands of our ancestors died to give us the freedoms we have today. Stay involved!)
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