Death panels anyone?
Posted on 08/17/2009 8:22:33 AM PDT by Jbny
At some point about five years ago, America became a “One-Party Country”—and the party in question was the GOP. Such, at least, was the conclusion of Los Angeles Times reporters Tom Hamburger and Peter Wallsten in the book they wrote under that title following the 2004 presidential election. Bizarre as their claim may sound today, it stood on solid ground. In November 2004, George W. Bush had won re-election with the largest number of votes up to that point in American history while racking up the seventh Republican win in the previous 10 races for the White House. Republicans, moreover, were in control of the Senate by a margin of 10 seats, and of the House by a margin of 30. To complete the sweep, they also boasted a majority of the nation’s governorships and a plurality of state legislatures.
(Excerpt) Read more at commentarymagazine.com ...
BHO ran on platitudes and one liners and sweet sounding rhetoric that appealed to a war weary, GOP weary public.
Now that people see what he actually wants to do, they are rejecting it.
Many of us knew who this guy was in 2008 but you were not going to talk logic to an emotionally driven electorate.
It's like a dad who has a teen daughter with a creep for a boyfriend. he can tell her what a bum her boyfriend is because he can see because he isn't emotionally invested in the relationship. Eventually, the daughter sees for herself that yes, dad was right. This guy is a creep.
If you will calm down and quit being shrill, you will note at 31, 47,52,79,92, and 94, I have provided much rational discourse and links. It is your turn to make some sort of argument in response. I have said that tort reform is silly, and provided links.
Like the article above said, you have left a vacuum that the lioberals have filled.
parsy, who is trying to be patient with you.
Yup.
NBF, you’re right. I do think the American people will put up a good fight but I think the republic, at least in the long term, is lost. The average middle class family has 2-3 kids. The birthrates are much higher for those who go on Gov. assistance.
Those who use gov. assistance will soon outvote those that don’t
RE :”If the GOP wants to attract it’s lost voters, like myself, it has to get away from a Woodrow Wilson/LBJ foreign policy and big government “compassionate” conservatism.”
We can always hope that after Obama the new question to those running for election will be “How are you going to get government out of our way?”
Unfortunately too many have promised too much for ‘free’.
Only on economics, and I prefer to think of it as the right way. But I been this way for a while. I pulled up from my own posts the day I left the GOP, March 15,2001:
“Congress Bails Out Credit Card Companies, Big Time!
Thursday, March 15, 2001 9:07:32 PM · by parsifal · 1+ views
The Flip Side of the Coin! | March 15, 2001 | parsifal
The United States Congress stands ready to legislate a massive bail-out of credit card companies and banks across the country. After years of irresponsible lending practices, the companies launched a massive campaign to reform the nation’s bankruptcy laws to pull their fat from the fire. Congress passed a law during their last session but even president Bill Clinton was too smart to add this insult to his long list of ignominious acts. The companies have been issuing credit cards to people too poor to repay them. The result has been several years of massive bankruptcy filings. In spite of this, ...
Freeper Poised To Become Democrat, Argggh!
Thursday, March 15, 2001 5:18:45 PM · by parsifal · 420+ views
disbelifatgopstupidity | March 15, 2001 | parsifal
Well this Freeper has finally had enough of the GOP. I figure that GOP must stand for “gang of proto-simians.” I registered to vote when I turned 18 and voted for Richrad Nixon for president. Since then, I have stood in line for hours to vote, usually for Republicans. But sadly, I have to face reality. The Republican Party is nothing but a group of idiots. They are too stupid to run the country. One thing the Democrats have been right about is that Republicans only care about the rich. Yep. They’re right. They are wrong about everything else but ... “
To toot my own horn a little, I was having problems with lenders making bad loans back in March 2001. This was 7 1/2 years before the sub-prime crash in September 2008. Unfortunately for the GOP, they chose to back the lenders and stick it to the poor and middle class consumers.
parsy, who may be right and he may be wrong
Thank you. One more day, and the only time I have had a thread pulled was the one I did in all encryption.
parsy, who will celebrate
Which is why I see us, eventually, going the way of Argentina
Can you read English and retain what you read? My early “training” was as a good little republican, not a leftist. What part of that did you not get?
If you want something to discuss, try the links I provided to the myths about tort reform. Do you think the info in them is wrong? If the “lefty” one throws you, try the other one about soft and hard insurance markets.
parsy, who has yet to hear anything but diatribe from you. Well, maybe the Jimmy Carter thing was an argument but you did not give any specifics.
Death panels anyone?
I am curious. Do you even realize your aggressive stupidity is an evolutionarily regressive trait?
I will take your remark as meaning that you do not read and understand English and that you do not retain what you have read. Now that I understand that you have short term cognitive memory dysfunction, I will go easier on you.
parsy, the compassionate
I think the source you used isn’t exactly objective. Check out Jackpot Justice, which is a 68 page study of the issue.
No, too blind. I didn’t see it, but I now have the report printing out. Thank you.
parsy, who wears glasses and is usually looking over the top of them
I’m printing it out. It will take a time to digest.
parsy, who has a lot of reading ahead of him
Comparing “apples to apples,” the true annual cost of America’s tort system is more than three times the estimate by Tillinghast of $279 billion. Tillinghast underestimates the true cost of America’s tort system because it does not include deadweight costs, all transition costs, or negative-spillover costs; but to be fair, this wasn’t Tillinghast’s objective. To put the annual social cost of the U.S. tort system into perspective, it is equivalent to an eight-percent tax on consumption, a 13-percent tax on wages, the combined annual output of all six New England states (Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Vermont), or the total annual sales of the U.S. restaurant industry. The annual price tag, or “tort tax,” for a family of four in terms of costs and forgone benefits is $9,827. The above totals for social costs and accounting costs represent only one year. But these costs will occur every year in perpetuity in the absence of further tort reform. If we assume that the yearly social and accounting costs will remain constant, the long-term social cost is $14.2 trillion and longterm accounting cost is $16.6 trillion.
68 pages, but not all have text on them.
It is still a hefty read. I also got this guide to understanding the study. You may want to review it. I have printed both out. You get off easy. This is only 27 pages. Hit the ssrn button and the download will start.
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1152306
parsy, who is looking for two binder clips
Sorry, hit the “download” button, then the SSRN link.
parsy, whose glasses keep slipping
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