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EDITORIAl: Obama's Mad Science Advisor
The Washington Times ^ | August 16, 2009 | Washington Times Editorial

Posted on 08/16/2009 6:27:59 AM PDT by floozy22

When it comes to having past views that should frighten every American citizen, Ezekiel Emanuel (see above editorial) has nothing on the president's "chief science adviser," John P. Holdren. The combination of Mr. Holdren with Dr. Emanuel should make the public seriously concerned with this administration's moral compass concerning care for the old and weak.

Earlier this month, Mr. Holdren served as co-chairman when the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology met for the first time. It's a disgrace that Mr. Holdren is even on the council. In "Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment," a book he co-authored in 1977 with noted doomsayers Paul R. and Anne H. Erlich, Mr. Holdren wrote: "Indeed, it has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: czar54; ezekielemanuel; holdren; zekeemanuel
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This guy sounds like Ezekiel Emanuel's soulmate.
1 posted on 08/16/2009 6:27:59 AM PDT by floozy22
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Probably carries a membership card with the Hemlock Society.


2 posted on 08/16/2009 6:31:27 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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Dr. Josef Mengele, the Angel of Death, must be smiling in his grave knowing Der Obama has these 2 on staff.
3 posted on 08/16/2009 6:39:34 AM PDT by hflynn (The One is really the Number Two)
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The question naturally arises why President Obama chooses to surround himself with extremists like Mr. Holdren or Dr. Emanuel

Just a wild guess... Because Zero doesn't think they're extreme? Like, he agrees with them? Thinks they're visionaries? As I said, just a wild guess...

4 posted on 08/16/2009 6:42:12 AM PDT by justkate
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More like a fact than a guess.


5 posted on 08/16/2009 6:45:26 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: floozy22

Obama’s mad scientists shouldn’t be a surprise. Mr. Obama argued for the death of babies that survived abortions.


6 posted on 08/16/2009 6:45:56 AM PDT by Need4Truth (Downsizing government is more than just reducing taxes.)
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Just a wild guess... Because Zero doesn't think they're extreme?

Is there a nut Zero hasn't hired and given more influence then he/she would ever have in a sane (i.e., meritocratic) society?

7 posted on 08/16/2009 6:50:10 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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Damned liberals are always one genocide away from Utopia.


8 posted on 08/16/2009 6:50:48 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("Baldrick, to you the Renaissance was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it?")
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To: justkate

Just a wild guess... Because Zero doesn’t think they’re extreme? Like, he agrees with them? Thinks they’re visionaries? As I said, just a wild guess...


And apparently he believes he can get away with it. Really, when the American people don’t even know who Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are - or Joe Biden, for that matter - obama must feel secure in doing he wants. I imagine the town hall meetings are really taking him by surprise.


9 posted on 08/16/2009 6:53:06 AM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Damned liberals are always one genocide away from Utopia.

That is Tagline worthy...

10 posted on 08/16/2009 6:54:01 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (Liberals are always one genocide away from Utopia.)
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To: Onelifetogive

Go for it!


11 posted on 08/16/2009 6:55:04 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("Baldrick, to you the Renaissance was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it?")
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How can people not be afraid of government healthcare involvement with these people close to and influencing the Obama administration?

All they need is a "loophole" and they are off to the races.

They are evil!

12 posted on 08/16/2009 7:02:40 AM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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This bunch makes Mengele look almost human by comparison.


13 posted on 08/16/2009 7:12:04 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Ev Reeman

One thing that can help bring down Obama is shining the light on the wackos that Obama has surrounded himself with. Wright and Ayers may be “old history” that Obama can excuse himself from but he has personally selected Holdren, Jones, etc. for top positions in the admin within the past 6 months.

Glenn is right now doing much of the hard work but the facts need to go viral.


14 posted on 08/16/2009 7:33:37 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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Yes and let’s shine a lot of light on all those so called czars too while we’re at it.

This administration cannot stand a lot of light shone on it.

Just look at all the dirt and corruption that has been uncovered on Murtha, Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Schumer, Dodd, Emanuel, Geithner et al already...just to name a few.


15 posted on 08/16/2009 7:45:59 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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Yes and let’s shine a lot of light on all those so called czars too while we’re at it.

This administration cannot stand a lot of light shone on it.

Just look at all the dirt and corruption that has been uncovered on Murtha, Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Schumer, Dodd, Emanuel, Geithner et al already...just to name a few.


16 posted on 08/16/2009 7:46:12 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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EDITORIAL: Health rationing by other names Obama health adviser doesn't 'evolve' enough

By THE WASHINGTON TIMES | Sunday, August 16, 2009

Ezekiel J. Emanuel, a key presidential health care adviser, told The Washington Times on Thursday that his "thinking has evolved" on the subject of health care rationing, he was making a distinction without a difference. Even his "evolved" ideas amount to nothing more than government rationing by another name.

Here's what Dr. Emanuel told news reporter Jon Ward: "When I began working in the health policy area about 20 years ago ... I thought we would definitely have to ration care, that there was a need to make a decision and deny people care." And: "I think that over the last five to seven years ... I've come to the conclusion that in our system we are spending way more money than we need to, a lot of it on unnecessary care. If we got rid of that care we would have absolutely no reason to even consider rationing except in a few cases."

First of all, notice that he gives himself an out "in a few cases." That is the health-care-rationing equivalent of being just a little bit pregnant. You either ration or you don't.

Second, when it is the government, rather than private individuals through the open market, deciding what is or isn't "unnecessary care," and deciding what care to get "rid of," then that by definition is government rationing. Government acts by compulsion. If government decides what is "necessary," and grandma's hip-replacement surgery is deemed "unnecessary" even if grandma wants the surgery, then grandma's care has been rationed by the power of the state -- no matter what words you use to describe it.

The reason people were wary of Dr. Emanuel in the first place is because of his writings from the 1990s in which (to quote one of them), he advocated giving younger people first dibs on medical care: "Unlike allocation by sex or race, allocation by age is not invidious discrimination; every person lives through different life stages rather than being a single age. Even if 25-year-olds receive priority over 65-year-olds, everyone who is 65 years now was previously 25 years." In late 1996, he wrote that "services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed."

As noted Friday by Ralph Reiland in the American Spectator online, Dr. Emanuel had not seemed to change much even as late as 2008: "Last year in 'Health Affairs: The Policy Journal of the Health Sphere,' Emanuel wrote that 'Vague promises of savings from cutting waste, enhancing prevention and wellness, installing electronic medical records and improving quality are merely lipstick cost controls, more for show and public relations than for true change.' "

Ironically, those "vague promises of savings" are exactly the ones President Obama has been making in his fruitless attempts to claim that his plans won't be exorbitantly expensive. Dr. Emanuel was right then: The only way to implement Mr. Obama's proposals without breaking the bank is to impose the sort of rationing that Dr. Emanuel formerly pushed. That is morally unacceptable.

17 posted on 08/16/2009 8:01:24 AM PDT by Osage Orange (A community organizer cannot bitch when communities organize..... - Rush Limbaugh)
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Naturally the story on EJE, fails to mention that his brother is Rahm Emanuel: Senior White House Advisor and; Senior Advisor to Congress and the Media and: Cheif Propagandist and Enforcer...


18 posted on 08/16/2009 8:07:06 AM PDT by PIF
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
always one genocide away from Utopia.

Oh, that's a keeper.

19 posted on 08/16/2009 8:10:26 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (STOP OBAMA NOW.)
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To: floozy22
Already posted: HERE
20 posted on 08/16/2009 8:11:18 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Obamacare: Abort the unborn, kill the old, save money, give money to Dems and their thug supporters.)
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