You know, of course, that the investigators found fragments of blue plastic barrels all over the area (even on roofs).
McVeigh's sketch showed the three empty blue steel VP Racing fuels barrels lined up against the back door of the truck. Those barrels -- or their remains -- (like the rear axle) should have wound up to the east along Northwest 5th Street (in the direction of the Regency towers).
No trace of those steel barrels was ever reported. Do you have any idea as to why that is?
The real bomb designer would have wanted the initial detonation to focus the second (main) detonation, to "point" the main (second) blast wave right at the front of the Murrah building.
If it's timed right, not only is the power of the secondary (main) detonation fully projected in the direction of the front of the Murrah building (which as a large, structurally flexible target, would then "accept" the incoming main (second) blast, ripping the entire facade from its internal skeleton), but the initial detonation would have been following right behind the secondary (main) detonation, only temporarily delayed by the effect of the second detonation.
So when the second (main) detonation blast wave ripped the facade/skin of the Murrah Building from its skeleton attachments, the first detonation wave came behind a few milliseconds later and picked up the "debris wall" that was now loose from the second blast wave (the one that reached the building first) and it probably lifted the entire front facade of the Murrah building and threw it back at the Murrah building like a huge sledgehammer.
With a blast created by amateurs (like the 1994 Twin Towers truck bomb), the Murrah windows would have blown in, the facade would have loosened, the facade could have broken free and might have fallen like a curtain straight to the ground. But to make a bomb that took the facade of the Murrah building and rammed it back into the building itself as an immensely destructive sledgehammer force of its own, requires a master at building explosive devices. Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols were not masters at building explosive devices.
And why all the mystery about how Terry Nichols had tens of thousands of dollars stored away in his kitchen BEFORE he went to the Philippines, and there seemed to be no real shortage of cash for the bomb builders? People who have access to millions of Deutchmarks of funding for the WW2 battle reenactments in Germany, would have no trouble raising money from wealthy ex-NAZIs (although it is unlikely that once a NAZI, you ever become an ex-NAZI in your heart of hearts), to fund a project, that would strike a blow at the very heart of America and bring the terror of war to America, the way the NAZIs thought America brought the terror of war to Germany in WW2.
Why didn't Americans (AND OBIC IN PARTICULAR) realize in 1995, when Andreas Strassmeir had an FBI arrest warrant out for murder, that he had BEEN THERE SINCE 1987. Here was a college trained, former member of the German elite GSG-9 counter terrorism group, and son of the First Secretary of Germany (second only to Chancellor Helmut Kohl in authorities), hanging around doing next to nothing in the USA for 8 years before his escape back to Germany. Why wasn't America informed that within 10 years of the end of WW2 the Bundeswehr needed to be rebuilt as a buffer against Communism and the general staff at that time came from the ranks of former NAZI officers in Hitler's army? By the time Gunther Strassmeir was getting to one of the highest positions in the German government, German ex-NAZIs were regaining their financial positions and power, while America was bogged down in Vietnam. With Nixon looking to Asia, and then Carter having numerous other problems, Gunther Strassmeir could fulfill his 4 dreams:
#1 Put Europe under the economic domination of Germany the way Hitler had planned. The EEC accomplished that.
#2 Re-unite Germany. Gunther Strassmeir is known as "The Father of German Re-unification for putting that together.
#3 Rehabilitate the image of Nazism and NAZIs in general AND make NAZIs a force within Germany again. Gunther had been a Hitler Youth for a long time (nearly a decade). The way to restore NAZIs was to re-install as many former NAZIs back into positions of authority, particularly in the German military. As a high ranking government official Gunther was well placed to promote this. By reducing the power of internal investigators trying to "out" former NAZIs, he took the spotlight off of former/current NAZIs so they could rejoin the network of NAZIs in German government, the military and business.
#3 cont. To polish up the tarnished image of the NAZI military Gunther Strassmeir funneled millions of government Deutschmarks into the German battle reenactment clubs under the guise of "increasing tourism". This allowed non-military German who wanted to be NAZIs to dress up like NAZIs and strut around like they really were "The Master Race". With the training of German military personnel, and the guidance of many German battle reenactors, Neo-NAZI thugs were given the means and the targets allowing them to murder thousands of Kurdish, Turkish, and other Middle Eastern refugees (mostly women, children and the elderly), who were regularly fire-bombed in the refugee centers in Germany. Gunther Strassmeir achieved this dream by rehabilitating the image of NAZIs in positions of authority, and in publicity for battle reenactments, while using the Neo-NAZI subculture to strike fear into the refugees and other groups Nazism has traditionally tried to exterminate.
In fact Gunther Strassmeir was the person who distributed hundreds of copies of books justifying Nazism in Germany for Christmas one year, On behalf of Chancellor Helmut Kohl, creating numerous protests in Germany and abroad. Gunther Strassmeir never became an EX-NAZI, he was NAZI through and through til the day he died. Thus he was always an enemy of America, with his own NAZI agenda.
#4 Gunther Strassmeir's final dream item on his wish list, was to strike a deadly blow into the heart of America, for siding with Britain and helping to destroy Hilter. Germans are sure they could have sued Britain for peace if the USA had not entered WW2 on Britain's side. By the middle 1980s when America was becoming more and more multi-cultural, it was becoming more of everything that Gunther Strassmeir hated. So with the correct indoctrination of his son Andreas, a project was launched, where Andreas would find the people in the USA who could be directed to murder their own countrymen as surrogates for Gunther.
#4 cont. For years Andreas buddy-ed up to whoever might know who the most violent, murderously capable and insanely fanatical people were in the USA. Andreas had not only diplomatic status and access to US government departments like the FBI, he could play up to both the people investigating hate groups in America (like the Southern Poverty Law Center staff), to get information on who were the worst of the worst. Or, once the American fanatics were identified, Andreas could act like the white supremacist he really was. Eventually Andreas Strassmeir found the tools he needed in Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols.
#4 cont. With the assistance of Kirk Lyons whose grandfather had been one of the founders of the German NAZI party), Andreas slowly developed these 2 and a few others, but nothing was going to make these guys into expert bomb builders. Andreas and Gunther Strassmeir didn't want a loud firecracker of a statement, they wanted real death and destruction to come raining down on middle America. So being big battle reenactment fans themselves, Andreas Strassmeir and Kirk Lyons found an experienced battle reenactment explosives rigger. They may have even gotten John Doe #2 further training in the run-up to the Normandie D-Day battle reenactment in 1994. The culture of terror that envelops the lives of Americans today got it's biggest boost in 1994/1995. It's been terrible for America, but it must have pleased Gunther and Andreas Strassmeir no end.
TXnMA it's hard to imagine that neither you or anyone else at OBIC checked out the words in quotes "John Doe #2" on Google or any other search engines. My book web pages were prominent, which is why the info about the book and the link was posted here, on Free Republic, in 2002 (although it had been available online since 1999). I'd like to thank Free Republic and the person who posted the info again.
When I get a message from you like the one below, I have to wonder why OBIC walked around with blinders on, only willing to see witness reports if the words "Islamic terrorists" were involved. ANYONE WITH A GOOD REASON TO HATE AMERICA SHOULD HAVE BEEN SUSPECT AFTER THE Oklahoma CIty Bombing took place. The Grand Jury was limited by time and was under the influence of the prosecutors. What was OBIC's problem?
Original message by TXnMA regarding Re: Return to the Real Mass Murderer Known as John Doe #2, Tim McVeigh/Terry Nichols were dupes received 08/17/2009 5:41:10 PM PDT
Have you read the OKBIC FInal Report? Do you have a copy?
If so, pay close attention to my Disclaimer on page 198.. Re-read it — and then get back to me about ”myopia”...I was not “myopic” I was focused on my area of expertise. There were lots of others doing “your” job...
However, I can truthfully say I never heard of you or your work — until this FR thread. (Have you changed name in the interim?) If I had been aware that (if) you had web pages available, I would have scoured them for any clues as to bomb construction, etc. And, I certainly would have paid attention to any mention of a guy with expertise in det-cord timing harnesses.
Here is my reply
But first let me clarify that TXnMA is not solely responsible for overlooking the obvious here. He was a bomb making expert looking at the bomb itself. Everyone at OBIC was being myopic. My reply follows.
The book copy I sent to Rep Charles Key was in the name I use here. The discussions I had with Jim Grace (you do know that Jim Grace was one of the OBIC;s investigators, right?) used the name I use here. Please confirm this question I've asked you a few times now. I can't help it that OBIC was so unwilling to look at any witness reports that didn't include the words "Islamic Terrorist", that they couldn't even try to look at any other possibilities. The FBI arrest warrant for Andreas Strassmeir should have signaled something to you guys. And when Stephen Jones sent a negotiator to Europe to get a statement from "the bystander who was in the truck with Tim McVeigh" why didn't THAT signal something to you guys? If this is the first time you've ever heard of me, then OBIC filtered out huge amounts of information that should have been in the report.
The FBI may have had their own agenda, and reasons why they didn't pass on the witness reports they had about John Doe #2 in Europe (and NOT just mine, read the sample chapter in the web pages about my book) but, OBIC shouldn't have had such a closed mind. The JD#2 suspect I met, trains people to build effective explosive devices. How many Americans has his expertise killed in the last 10 years? Yes I have a copy of The Final Report. Disclaimers are meaningless. This report is so "Not Final" it's ridiculous. Read my posts about how well designed this truck bomb was and then try to fit either Tim McVeigh or Terry Nichols into that scenario as the bomb designer.TTG
TomTGradeczek, tomtgradeczek@lycos.com
author of Waiting For John Doe (Number Two), (how a former Hitler Youth successfully arranged mass murder through a terrorist attack on Oklahoma and America).